how can i squeeze more out of it

meobius · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:07 am Post subject: how can i squeeze more out of it

have following system
Barton 2500+(1826Mhz) @2310 (had it higher but wasn't stable) 210Fsb 11x multi
Abit NF7-v2.0
Corsair TwinX512-3200 with mem timing 2-3-2-6-T1 (mem is @420mhz)
160gig 7200RPM Maxtor SATA hd
Radeon 9500pro @303.7 303.7 core and mem using the latest omega drivers

My big question is how can I get more from GPU and HD...
Seems the more i O/C FSB the slower my HD is... at stock FSB my HD rated 1500 or so on pcmark02... and 210 it's hitting 1300... at 200 it's around 1370-1400... any way to boost SATA performance or Hd performance?

How high can I boost the radeon(saphire black pcb)? most likely getting a Thermaltake Giant cooler for it

voltages not yet set... burning the current settings in and than going to drop them as much as possible

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[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

sounds like you need to lock your AGP/PCI bus speeds to 66/33
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meobius · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:15 am Post subject:

forgot to mention that AGP is at 75mhz

CooLJoE · Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 1:33 am Post subject:

Also try relaxing your memory timings a bit. That may increase their ability to go higher in clock speeds.
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[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

s I said before, lock your AGP and PCI speeds at 66/33 and you will get your hard drive performance back.
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meobius · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:53 pm Post subject:

dropped the AGP back down to 66mhz but suffered a drop in system performance. Brought it back up and it was getting good results again....
for the hard drive i have a feeling it's related to "EXT-P2P's Discard Time

Now I'ld like to boost the multiplyer but everytime i try it almost finishes loading windows and than gives me a bsod with the message machine_check_exception...
any idea's on how i can get it to work...(Aside from dropping FSB or upping cpu voltage)

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So you want Nathan's hjelp but only if it fits within your ideas of how to overclock?
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meobius · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:44 pm Post subject:

well...
if I lower my FSB i'll have to lower my memory speed... if I unsync my mem speed from my fsb speed my performance takes a big hit. as far as voltage is concerned... any higher than it is now(for all voltages) and the system just won't boot

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meobius · Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:06 am Post subject:

k dropped the multi and indeed got it to 220 (swapped my 512 for 1gig still corsair twinx 3200llram after that and now can't bring it as high) also got a giant2 for m 9500, and managed to o/c the core from 275 to 375 and the mem from 270 to 325.... sure if I got ramsinks i could prob get the mem up higher also looking at putting my northbridge heatsink and fan on my southbridge and getting a better northbridge cooler, but i'm not sure which one to get... any suggestions?

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[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

When you overclock your system without the AGP/PCI lock in place, you overclock every single bus in your computer. This can limit you overclocking because if you hard drive can't take the raise in bus speed, it will die out and you overclock will be unstable.

You could potentially kill you drive.

Locking your AGP/PCI bus will allow you to overclock your memory and CPU only and take the rest of the system out of the question.
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eli · SirTweaksabit Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 256

cool. is there an usually an option to do this in the BIOS or something?

meobius · Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 2:00 pm Post subject:

my bios doesn`t have that option, rather it lets you modify the agp value manually but no lock option. As far as HD is concerned, it`s not an ide, it`s SATA. And the newest revision with the 4 timings has no effect, it`s always been stable (slower than i`ld like but i`ll get another and raid em.)

Looking now into replacing northbridge cooling, and mosfets(forgive me i screw the spelling of this one to hell), also going to put heatsinks on my videocard ram... topping out at 325MHz (double that since it`s ddr was at 270) can get it higher but start getting artifacts. video core i`m still pumping up, hit 380 and it`s still stable (from 275).

anyway... my northbridge...what`s the best cooling solution for it (other than TE or H2O)

eli · SirTweaksabit Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Posts: 256

theres no damn option! maybe your missing something.

[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

*sigh* read your manual and lock your AGP/PCI/SATA frequencies.

Have you done that yet?
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meobius · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:31 pm Post subject:

Yes i have read my manual many times... And it is not possible to lock agp/pci/sata
if you do not believe me the following link is the manual

ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/fae/NF7_3in1_EngWEBV.100.pdf

What they do mention on page 4-4 is
"agp frequancy: you can increase your agp speed here.This means that you canIndependantlyincrease the agp clock speed" it goes on to mention how faster speeds are supported but not guaranteed to work.[/url]

CooLJoE · Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:55 pm Post subject:

My guess is that its the AGP Frequency thing. Seems odd that there isn't a locking feature though.
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