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fussnfeathers Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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To add a front fan, you'll need to remove the front panel of the case. If you remove the sides, and look, you'll see some tabs that hold the front panel in place.............it's a pain in the butt, but you can remove it. Behind the front panel, you'll see the mounting spot for an 80mm fan. Make sure it's blowing IN when you install it.
If you decide to mount a side fan afterwards, you need to remove the wind tunnel. Just unscrew the screws holding that piece on, an 80mm fan will fit into that spot instead. I would not do that, for now, though..........just add the 80mm fan to the front. Your case has enough airflow to not need that side fan. _________________ Big enough to scare you |
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| fussnfeathers wrote: | To add a front fan, you'll need to remove the front panel of the case. If you remove the sides, and look, you'll see some tabs that hold the front panel in place.............it's a pain in the butt, but you can remove it. Behind the front panel, you'll see the mounting spot for an 80mm fan. Make sure it's blowing IN when you install it.
If you decide to mount a side fan afterwards, you need to remove the wind tunnel. Just unscrew the screws holding that piece on, an 80mm fan will fit into that spot instead. I would not do that, for now, though..........just add the 80mm fan to the front. Your case has enough airflow to not need that side fan. |
I just order some fans. Will do as your advice, Thanks a lot. Hopefully, them temp will be brought down significantly  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
3.0 Ghz Overclocking to 3.39 Ghz. (225Ghz)
Temp: Idle: 40F, Fan: 2600RPM, Max: 53F :)
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Latest report:
After adding a 80mm fan on the side at 2800RPM, the temp is downed significantly to.... 40~41C Idle from 50C and load temp now is ~53F. _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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i like where this is going...this the OC temp?? _________________
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| ToggleHead wrote: | | i like where this is going...this the OC temp?? |
Yup :). That is the temps when OCing at 220Mhz. Next time when starting up, I will have it at 225 which gave the stablility last time. To go up further, I am not sure. First of all, it may be the limitation of the RAM and definitely the temp will raise. In your case, I guess your 92mm fan helps a lot to keep the temp under 45F. I cant get to that I think it is very loud?? If I change to more power ful fans (means more CFM and more noise ), I should be close to 45F at load.
I think I have a nice flow insdie the case: the 120mm fan in the back sucks the cool air in, the side fan sucks the cool air in directly to the CPU's fan. A fan inside the PS will sucks the air up. Another one will continue sucks the hot air out.
The next thing I am going to try is to replace theses two fans by more powerful fans (they are running at 2100RPM, will replace them by 2700RPM's) and replace the fan on the side by one of these 2100RPM in a hope to reduce the noise level and sucks the hot air out faster. I will report this test after I try.
Thank you all of you for very helpful advises  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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Temp: Idle: 40F, Fan: 2600RPM, Max: 53F :)
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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It turned out I can not replace 2 fans inside the PS unit. It lloks like I have to stay at 225Mhz with Idle temp ~40C. Not too bad  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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well....hmmm Is it my uinderstanding that you have the rear case fan blowing air IN to your case? Typically i would suggest reversing this.
Optimally....youd like air intake to come from the bottom front of the case.....and the side panel. And the exhaust should be from the top rear, and the very top (blowhole fan).
As we know, heat rises, and the cooler the air inside the case, the better.
Also, i have a 3.0 C chip...or Northwood. You have the E or Prescott. Your chip runs notoriously hotter than mine does, so its difficult to compare your temps to mine. Looking good so far though....let see if we cant bump that up a bit more though....;D _________________
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I made an error in my last statement and you corrected me . The 120mm fan in the back actually takes the air out. I tried to reverse it and the temp is increasing about 2C. I think I have to be happy with the improvement I had with the side fan. I can not think of anything I have not tried now  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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fussnfeathers Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest moving the fan on the side (that you just installed) to the front. You need to move the "hot pocket" of air away from the hard drive. With that wind tunnel over the CPU, you don't really need a side fan, but you can certainly add one if you like. For now, try the fan in the front (installed behind the front panel) and reinstall the wind tunnel your case came with. Adjust it at close to the CPU fan as possible, and you won't really need a side fan.
And yes, more fans mean more noise........if ya wanna run with the big dogs, yer gonna make alot of noise. You might also want to look into replacing the stock Cooler Master 120mm rear fan......they're usually pretty good, but go for as high a CFM as you can get. The 120mm fan will be quieter even at higher CFM's, as it doesn't have to spin as fast to move as much air.
Ideally, if you're going air-cooled, you'd want negative air pressure inside the case...........meaning, more CFM's going out than coming in. You'll also want a direct crossflow.......meaning one fan in the front, one in the rear. Like Toggle mentioned, a blowhole fan on the top of the case is nice, but you can get away without it, as long as you have good front- to- back ventilation. _________________ Big enough to scare you |
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| fussnfeathers wrote: | I would suggest moving the fan on the side (that you just installed) to the front. You need to move the "hot pocket" of air away from the hard drive. With that wind tunnel over the CPU, you don't really need a side fan, but you can certainly add one if you like. For now, try the fan in the front (installed behind the front panel) and reinstall the wind tunnel your case came with. Adjust it at close to the CPU fan as possible, and you won't really need a side fan.
And yes, more fans mean more noise........if ya wanna run with the big dogs, yer gonna make alot of noise. You might also want to look into replacing the stock Cooler Master 120mm rear fan......they're usually pretty good, but go for as high a CFM as you can get. The 120mm fan will be quieter even at higher CFM's, as it doesn't have to spin as fast to move as much air.
Ideally, if you're going air-cooled, you'd want negative air pressure inside the case...........meaning, more CFM's going out than coming in. You'll also want a direct crossflow.......meaning one fan in the front, one in the rear. Like Toggle mentioned, a blowhole fan on the top of the case is nice, but you can get away without it, as long as you have good front- to- back ventilation. |
I have not found a way to install the fan in front panel. I guess the one in the front will take the air in? _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
3.0 Ghz Overclocking to 3.39 Ghz. (225Ghz)
Temp: Idle: 40F, Fan: 2600RPM, Max: 53F :)
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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that is correct.....what kind of case do you have again? _________________
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fussnfeathers Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: |
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To install a front fan in your case:
You have to remove the entire front panel. Take the sides off the case, and look toward the front of the case, at the backside of the front panel (next to the drive bays). You'll see six plastic tabs. Compress those a little bit, and pull the front off the case. Then, remove the front fan cover (four screws), and install the fan. Then snap the front panel back into place.
Instructions can be found here: http://www.coolermaster.com/installation_manual/Cavalier3_manual_eng.pdf _________________ Big enough to scare you |
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| fussnfeathers wrote: | To install a front fan in your case:
You have to remove the entire front panel. Take the sides off the case, and look toward the front of the case, at the backside of the front panel (next to the drive bays). You'll see six plastic tabs. Compress those a little bit, and pull the front off the case. Then, remove the front fan cover (four screws), and install the fan. Then snap the front panel back into place.
Instructions can be found here: http://www.coolermaster.com/installation_manual/Cavalier3_manual_eng.pdf |
Thank fussnfeathers. I will try tonight  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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It turns out the case already has a fan in the front panel . _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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is it blowing in? =] _________________
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hochoi TweakNOOB
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| ToggleHead wrote: | | is it blowing in? =] |
Yes  _________________ ASUS P4P800 SE
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