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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: need help on mobo P4P800SE Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

When I connect the power reset switch (from the case) to my mobo, the power just keep turning on and then off repeatly. If I just disconnect this power
reset switch , then the system can boot. Please explain to me if you know about this problem and help me to resolve it.

Thank you very much.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try pressing the switch twice when you turn on. I suspect you are using the wrong type of switch. The switches on old AT type cases make contact when they are switched on untill they are switched off, the new switches make contact only when the switch is pressed. Try using your reset switch instead of the power switch.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xal wrote:
try pressing the switch twice when you turn on. I suspect you are using the wrong type of switch. The switches on old AT type cases make contact when they are switched on untill they are switched off, the new switches make contact only when the switch is pressed. Try using your reset switch instead of the power switch.


Thank you very much for your help. I just want to make sure I understood your instruction. What you said is from the power off state, to turn the computer on I press the reset switch twice? What is the use of the power switch then?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just needs to short the pins on the motherboard briefly for the power supply to come on The real switch is inside the power supply these days, think of it as a kind of wired remote.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

check to see if one of the buttons are stuck or broken
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meobius wrote:
check to see if one of the buttons are stuck or broken


Xal wrote:
It just needs to short the pins on the motherboard briefly for the power supply to come on The real switch is inside the power supply these days, think of it as a kind of wired remote.


Thank you both of you for the help. I tried to push the reset switch twice but there was no respone. My case is not too old (2 years), so I guess it may not be the problem. But it's good to know that trick :)

There is no visible broken buttons or something like that.

Finally, I tried to switch two connectors: the power switch to reset switch and vice versa. It seems wto work :). I still have to cross my fingers :)

One more question: Is there any chance of a damage to the mobo when the power is suddendly of if I decide not to connect the reset switch?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant say its GREAT for it.....you should avoid cutting power abruptly.....better to be safe than sorry

...how often do you use your reset switch anyway? I barely turn my machine off...lol
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToggleHead wrote:
i cant say its GREAT for it.....you should avoid cutting power abruptly.....better to be safe than sorry

...how often do you use your reset switch anyway? I barely turn my machine off...lol


I think so. I just want to learn if somebody experienced this before.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive had the power cut on my rig a couple times...and done it myself by accident too.....so far im ok, and it hasnt harmed anything....but im not about to test its tolerance
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had power abrubtly cut off from my machine a few times, can't say it had any permanent effeects that show. I don't know if it effects the longevity or not, but who actually holds onto computers long enough to find out their longevity anyway? =P
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cutting power abruptly won't hurt the hardware at all. Windows will probably puke after a few times, though.

Anyway, pulling the plug while the machine is running really isn't any different from the PSU shutting off after a regular system shutdown. Remember, before Windows 95, the only way to shut your system down was to kill the PSU or power strip the machine was plugged into.

Now, cutting the power suddenly, then reapplying power immediately afterwards (i.e. before the mobo has a chance to discharge remaining power) can be bad after awhile. You're sortof "shocking" the power caps, resulting in a mild overvoltage.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fussnfeathers wrote:
Cutting power abruptly won't hurt the hardware at all. Windows will probably puke after a few times, though.

Anyway, pulling the plug while the machine is running really isn't any different from the PSU shutting off after a regular system shutdown. Remember, before Windows 95, the only way to shut your system down was to kill the PSU or power strip the machine was plugged into.

Now, cutting the power suddenly, then reapplying power immediately afterwards (i.e. before the mobo has a chance to discharge remaining power) can be bad after awhile. You're sortof "shocking" the power caps, resulting in a mild overvoltage.


I think you are right. About not connect the reset switch, I had a bad experience.
When the PS cut off abrubtly, there is something wrong with the OS because I can still see the BIOS, I can still see the Window strating (the thing runnnung horizontally) for 2-3 seconds, then everything went blank Shock

Can somebody explain what the real problem is?

Thank you
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero_Fresh wrote:
but who actually holds onto computers long enough to find out their longevity anyway? =P


haha... I do... its hard to upgrade and get a new computer when your a freshman in high school, and have no job. My last computer was a Compaq Presario 4716...
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