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 Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: The end of Gfx card upgrades as we know it. |
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Hey folks I hope its ok to start this thread.
I found something you guys n gals might be interested in.
http://www.ageia.com/
Here is a review - Im sure there are many more out there.
http://www.techgage.com/review.php?id=2038
This technology will make upgrading new video cards pointless for the most part.
It also opens up more possibilities for better Frames/sec....Muhahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahah....sorry. 8P~
It will also give Ati and Nvidia a little breathing room - as they are approaching the pinnacle of how far they can push the cards to their threshold of performance.
Cheers 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:24 am Post subject: |
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*MOVED*
does this mean we need a new section for Physics cards?
There is also rumor of nVidia SLI being able to take the physics load off of the cpu and improving frame rates upto 10 fold.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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How long before they incorporate it into the next generation video boards, rather than keeping a slot all for itself?
I'm sure PCIx slot can handle both video and physX bandwidth. 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Thats pretty crazy.....gets me thinkin.....maybe one day, ill actually be a gamer....=P
oh man....what they could do with MECHWARRIOR *drools*
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| 2old2care wrote: | How long before they incorporate it into the next generation video boards, rather than keeping a slot all for itself?
I'm sure PCIx slot can handle both video and physX bandwidth. |
I think they are already moving that direction. The discrete board was a novel idea but they took too long getting it to market. nVidia and ATi are going to be all over this very soon. Remember todays GPUs have a much higher FPU output than todays CPUs.
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| [KoG]^weaZel wrote: | | 2old2care wrote: | How long before they incorporate it into the next generation video boards, rather than keeping a slot all for itself?
I'm sure PCIx slot can handle both video and physX bandwidth. |
I think they are already moving that direction. The discrete board was a novel idea but they took too long getting it to market. nVidia and ATi are going to be all over this very soon. Remember todays GPUs have a much higher FPU output than todays CPUs. |
I'm not so sure they will, at least not for awhile yet. With an add-in card, a company like BFG can continue to make regular 7900 series cards, and sell the PhysX card as a seperate unit. Adding it to the actual graphics card would be rather expensive.
Figure that the chip probably costs $50 (just a guess) in bulk. Now, figure that they'd have to make two versions of every card (7900GT and 7900GT PhysX), which would crank the tooling cost way up, plus the overhead for cards that don't sell, and you could easily see even mid-range cards shooting over the $500 mark.
I would say in a year, you'd see at least one high-end card with it integrated, but the add-in card would still be available.
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Several flavors and price ranges have never seemed to bother video board makers.
Hey, I spent at least an extra bill to get a me a GTX and 2Y an Ultra.
To have it on the vid board has other advantages. Like gfx memory controllers could work dual purpose and the gdr3 could possibly share.
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Oh, I know it, I'm just saying the add-in card will be around for quite awhile. What company wouldn't want to have one, but at the same time, what company would want to try to double their production line, as well as re-tool existing vid cards to accept the chip? Not very many. It's just not cost effective enough to make it worthwhile, especially with a new product like that.
It'd be one thing to be stuck with 10,000 PhysX add-in cards, that only cost $100 to produce, and quite another to get stuck with 10,000 7900GTX's that didn't sell because they were too expensive.
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I know where you are coming from...but that's what ebay does so well. 
The real thing is acceptance...if the big game producers embrace it in their software, then it could be like directX or GL. The hardware ppl would be all over it.
I agree the add-in will be around awhile. Imagine what it could do for onboard graphics, if it were setup to work for it. **flashback to AIMM's**
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I am not saying adding the PPU to the video card. nVidia is working on including physics calculations in the drivers for their SLI. So the PPU would be useless as the GPU would handle everything.
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| 2old2care wrote: | I know where you are coming from...but that's what ebay does so well.
The real thing is acceptance...if the big game producers embrace it in their software, then it could be like directX or GL. The hardware ppl would be all over it.
I agree the add-in will be around awhile. Imagine what it could do for onboard graphics, if it were setup to work for it. **flashback to AIMM's** |
From what I read, it should work fine with onboard chips, since the only real difference between onboard and PCIe/AGP cards is the onboard VRAM. It'd be a waste, though, since onboard chips can't handle games that would really benefit from the chip.
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