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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:10 pm    Post subject: 1U Cases Reply with quote

Anybody have any tips on keeping a 1U case cool. Our gaming clan has a dedicated box for gaming. We were able to use a 1U case for up to a 2.8ghz P4. Going above 2.8ghz , i.e 3.2ghz we started having overheating problems.

Here's a couple of pics of the case:

http://www.redhour.us/images/banners/server1.jpg

http://www.redhour.us/images/banners/server2.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1u's are going to be hard to cool. Do you have room on the upper outside of the case> If you do you would be able to mount a fan on the outside of that upper panel that blows cool air right onto the motherboard. Either that or watercooling.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 1U Cases Reply with quote

tabasco wrote:
Anybody have any tips on keeping a 1U case cool. Our gaming clan has a dedicated box for gaming. We were able to use a 1U case for up to a 2.8ghz P4. Going above 2.8ghz , i.e 3.2ghz we started having overheating problems.

Here's a couple of pics of the case:

http://www.redhour.us/images/banners/server1.jpg

http://www.redhour.us/images/banners/server2.jpg


You sure it was overheating?

They can run hot, but if that is the nature of the beast and has no performance problems, then you should be good.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya it was getting so hot it was rebooting. If we ran one 16 slot game it was okay, if we added another 16 slot game and had 32 people playing on the server it was overheating and rebooting.

We changed to a 2U case and installed 80mm Vantec Tornado fans and a bigger CPU heatsink and it's fine now with 60 slots and 100% CPU usage. The problem is that we use Co-Location hosting at the Equinix Center in Chicago and going from 1U to 2U of space cost a lot more money, so we want to go back to a 1U case to save some money.

I am experimenting now with a couple of new 40mm fans and a new 1U heatsink. I found Sunon 40mm fans that put out 17 CFM, compared to the normal 40mm fans that have 8 or 9 CFM, and I found a better Dynatron 1U CPU heasink
http://www.dynatron-corp.com/products/cpucooler/cpucooler_model.asp?id=105

I am loading SuSE 10.0 on it right now, and will be dressing the cabling the
rest of the evening to make sure I don't obstruct any of the air flow. Then I'll run folding or something like that on it and watch the CPU temp.

If this doesn't work, we'll probably switch to AMD since they run a heck of a lot
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should be checking to see if they are supplying adequate cooling for the racks.

There is no way that server should be overheating.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would depend on how many other units it's racked with. If his co-hosting plan has their 1U racked up with 20 other similar subsribers' rigs, that'll cause some pretty high ambient temp issues.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fussnfeathers wrote:
It would depend on how many other units it's racked with. If his co-hosting plan has their 1U racked up with 20 other similar subsribers' rigs, that'll cause some pretty high ambient temp issues.


Yes, but the server environment should be refrigerated.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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fussnfeathers wrote:
It would depend on how many other units it's racked with. If his co-hosting plan has their 1U racked up with 20 other similar subsribers' rigs, that'll cause some pretty high ambient temp issues.


Yes, but the server environment should be refrigerated.


Should be..............but might not be. And if the server guys have little to no clue, even freezer cool outside temps won't matter if they have the racks locked down tighter than a nun's panties.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if that is the case FnF I would be switching my hosting company. If they aren't keeping the rack room cool enough or have it too packed then they are killing the poeples hardware. And there is no reason for that.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the latest

I removed the I/O plate from the 1U server and as crazy at this sounds, the printer port from the motherboard. These were done to increase air flow through the 1U case. With the new 40mm 17cfm Sunon Fans and the new Dynatron 1U CPU heatsink, the system runs fine now and is back at it Co-Location host at the Equinix Center.

The Equinix centers in the US are one of the better hosting locations. The temperature is a constant 65 degrees. Since space is at a premium price, servers are located one on top of another in a 7ft relay rack.

The biggest heat problems you encounter with the 3.2ghz and above P4's is finding a 1U CPU heatsink that works well. All of the 1U heatsinks that I have tried are poor at best, but manageable with enough case air flow. Nathan, this could be a Review/Test project for you, Which 1U CPU Heatsinks are best So far, Dynatron have been the best I have found, but maybe there are better ones out there.

So we are back to gaming with our 1U server
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear. I'm a little concerned that your hosting co isn't leaving air gaps between servers, though. Stacking them directly on top of each other keeps the ambient temp on top/bottom of your server on the high side.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fussnfeathers wrote:
Good to hear. I'm a little concerned that your hosting co isn't leaving air gaps between servers, though. Stacking them directly on top of each other keeps the ambient temp on top/bottom of your server on the high side.


I agree, I wish there was a gap. Case air flow is critical when there is not a gap, but I think it all has to due with the cost of renting space at the Equinix center. Here is what it looks like inside: http://steadfastnetworks.com/corporate/datacenter.php Pricey place.
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