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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



..........Darth weaZel..........
Okay...we're off the deep end now
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2old2care wrote:


..........Darth weaZel..........
Okay...we're off the deep end now


True true! but its all fun and games..........till someone says:
[Darth Vader voice] Josh, I am your Father! [/Darth Vader Voice]

anyways got several packages in the mail today so there should be a picture update this evening.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weaz the 4800+ comes out the 24th, i would have waited if i was you, the performence difference between intel and amd dual cores are big with AMD being on top, thats why they are priced so much higher.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The performance isnt that different. And no they arent shipping on the 24th. First it was supposed to be the 16th then july 6th and now we are being told maybe sometime in August, they arent sure when they will get the 4800s. Either way I will get my P EE by the 21st or 22nd at the latest.

And besides with the P EE then I will be able to run 4 instances of D2OL on this computer. Talk about production!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you can buy the 4600+ right now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103541
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here ya go weaZ....a resample from the orig....if your interested.



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe already ahead of ya there 2O!

Ran into a slight problem last night. It all started when i got home and was browsing over the installation instructions for the LGA 775 retention bracket for the Swiftech cpu waterblock. "WARNING: use only a stepped base waterblock on Pentium 4 LGA 775." Well crap the block I got for the A64 has a flat base. So I go to my trusty frozencpu.com. OUT OF STOCK! ok check for the AMD XP (as they use the stepped block as well) OUT OF STOCK! So on to swiftnets.com and look at all the retailers that are close. After checking about 6 e-tailers I locate a block for the A XP (since I already have the bracket to mount it to the LGA 775.) Ordered and should be delivered on monday or tuesday.

The block seen in these pics is a spare as of right now, but the other one will look just the same. Wth no further ado here are some pics of video card and waterblock goodness.



These pics are pre-paint on the koolance blocks. There will be another update tonight to show the "after" pics.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

***drools***
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

one word of caution Nvidia SLI for Intel has been haveing problems lately hopefully you dont come across any.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah I have read that there have been some troubles. But we will have to wait and see. I think it is in part due to the newness of nVidia to the Intel chipset domain. And also the heat on the northbridge.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy crap!! You love tormenting us, don't you?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if that water block is going spare, you could always send it my way.....
Could you not have just added a thin plate or shim under the block to create a step? or would that not alow the bracket to attach? Confused

Get that thing built already! I wana see some benchies (and hopefully a leap in tweaknews.net tweakers team daily output stats!)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you better believe this is going to be pounding some D2OL!!

I cant wait to find out how this is going to OC and benchmark!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some mighty fine hardware you got there weaZ
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ham.

Sorry about not doing a pic update. Got home late from work and just crashed. But should be able to do it tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayDubya wrote:
Holy crap!! You love tormenting us, don't you?


YOUR BACK ON THE FORUMS JW! Where you been?

BTW, weaze...i envy you, keep your windows shut and doors locked just in case i feel the need
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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weaz the 4800+ comes out the 24th, i would have waited if i was you, the performence difference between intel and amd dual cores are big with AMD being on top, thats why they are priced so much higher.


I'll disagree there, totally. The performance is about the same as it usually is, with AMD still being slightly better for games, and Intel being slightly better for apps. Both use a shared memory controller, AMD just uses a "bridge" to connect the two cores, while Intel relies on the FSB. And, for that matter, NEITHER dual-core chip will out-perform a single core in daily usage, unless you happen to run two proc-intensive programs that use the same type of processing.

Price-to-performance is also a fallacy. There are many top performing products which cost less, it depends on the manufacturing process, overhead costs, and so on.............(and I hate to stir the fire, but if you're going to say a higher-priced product will perform better, why are you a Tagan fan? For that matter, since AMD procs have almost always been priced lower than Intel, but are still considered top performers, the argument has even less merit.)

There's not enough data to prove which is better. The only possible advantage AMD has is current Socket 939 boards will support the X2 with a BIOS upgrade (if the manufacturer supports it), while Intel chips require a new mobo entirely. As of yet, there's no firm benchmarks to prove which is better, simply because such benchmarks that exist are application specific. Give it 6 months, with some updates that are coming to benchmarking software, and we'll have a firm settlement on which is better for what. I expect it'll be an even match, similar to what AMD and Intel single core procs are now.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: UPDATE Reply with quote

Finally with the update on the video cards and waterblocks.
This shows one card finished and the other one waiting for its mating.


And now for a close up of the reading to be mated video card and thermal paste install.


SInce this update was overdue we have more pics for you.
The additional hardware to get close to finishing the install.
2 harddrives, 1 36gig and 1 74 gig raptor.
Sony floppy
New sound card
And of course the new DL DVD burner.


You can't have the complete inside of the case painted black and have the drives showing bare metal!



Well folks that is all for now. I hope that I get more parts in later today. So stay tuned for more updates.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude....I see......Fry's stickers
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fry's is one of my favorite places to get parts. Just as long as its not open box.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weaze did you think about going dual GTX at all? they come out tomarrow. and Mwave has the eVGA GTX in stock already but its got a hefty price tag.

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA35630
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ FnF becasue intel is useing the FSB to link the cores that will be a huge bottleneck in performence, you will see, time will tell how bad intels netburst is becomming, its getting worse and worse as they go on and on with it, but soon hopefully they will get rid of netburst and use what they did for the Penitum M, because the Pentium M is a good chip and its a good step towards a good direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, please don't turn this thread into a stupid Intel vs. AMD argument

just praise the glory that will be "Project: DARKSIDE" Shock

..........i'm gettin' a semi' just looking at all that bitchin hardware
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Ham,
And please dont turn this into a "the cpu is better" thing. This is just showing the build of this box.

I have thought about going with 2 of the 7800's and might do that by Christmas time.

I got the memory today but am going to wait till I get the cpu and motherboard before I take pics.
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