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[bigkissfan1973]

Hey DMW - I agree with everything you said - even the part about intel and "feeeding the machine" (although i just heard they owe a whole shitload of money in back taxes!!). i have always found the latest P4's to run faster than the comparable AMD XP chips though.

But yeah back to temps, I wasn't saying my case temp was warmer than my cpu - but the motherboard is (specifiallly the north and south bridge) sorry if I didn't represent that properly the first time around.

PS: jackalsmith - on speedfan 4.09 right now my "Temp #1" is 29 degrees and my "Temp #2" is 26 degrees - and with Asus probe I only use it to verifiy the cpu and board temp reading I get from speedfan - I preffer speedfan because it monitors the hard drive temps as well (it caught 2 maxtor 7200 rpm drives going bad on me - they were running at 60 + degrees celcius!!!) Thankfully that was before the one year warranty ran out on them and before it destroyed all my data - here's a tip for anyone who doesn't know as well - you can still get ide hard drives with a 3 year warranty without spending a lot of cash - Samsung still has 3 warranty on all new drives and they run way cooler than maxtors and western digitals who have dropped their warranty down to only 1 year on most of their drives. No i don't work for samsung - but I do sell alot of their drives.

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[CooLJoE]

DMW is right, your ambient room temp HAS to be lower than your CPU temp. No 2 ways about it. So since you say its running at 29C (84.2F) that means your room temp has to be in the 70-80s for temp. Though I doubt its near the 80s with a temp like that on your cpu. I'm thinking it must be in the mid to low 70s.

Also, those laser temp guns are nice, but not the best for cpus and such. You could use it on RAM, HDDs, etc, but not things that sit under a heatsink. Those guns do surface measuring. I know this because they are used ALL the time with Nitro R/C cars/planes/boats/etc. (a hobby that I'm into).

Also, all drives can get hot. If you don't cool them properly, your the only one to blame. And if you don't put them in the airflow in some form, they tend to get warm/hot also. Generally, low performance drives run cool while high performance drives run warm. Am I saying something about your Samsung drives? Could be...you'll have to decide that though. I run Maxtors myself. Infact my work uses them all the time with little problems. BTW, I work for a computer company that builds and sells servers to small businesses and restaurants (runs the point of sale systems). Been there for 6 years and worked on computers for a long time before this place. So you could say I know my way around them.
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[bigkissfan1973]

I never said that DMW was wrong - I said that I was mistaken when I explained it - I wasn't taking about the ambient temp of my case interior - I was referring to the Motherboard South/Northbridge chipset temps (where most diagnostic/temp monitoring software get there readings from).

I know it is physical impossible for just airflow to make the cpu cooler than the case interior temp - but the Spark 7 fan does make my CPU cooler than the South/Northbridge readings on my motherboard.

As to hard drives I have two mounted in 5 1/2 bays with the a 3 fan cooler blowing air right over them. The other two drives are mounted near the bottom of the case and have a 8 cm fan blowing air over them and behind and up a bit on the back of the case is another 8 cm sucking the hot air out. Also as mentioned before I have routed all my cables and wires neatly out of the way to provide the best airflow possible and with this setup all my hard drives run in the temp range of 18 - 30 degrees Celsius.

Now when two of them were Maxtor’s (I too used to be a Maxtor fan for years) they were running from 55 - 80 + degrees in the exact same setup. As a matter of fact when I called Maxtor on another issue I asked them what was the maximum temp they should run at, Maxtor told me "anything above 55 degrees is too hot" so they rma'd both of the drives no questions asked. I sold them when I got them back (the remainder of the warranty was almost up).

But no I'm not bashing Maxtor - all I was saying is most of the companies have dropped their warranty from 3 to 1 year - except for Samsung.

I too have been involved with computers for years (had my first system in 1982) and have been a "geek" ever since.
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[-.-PhanTom-.-]

bigkissfan1973: do you have any pictures of the inside of your case?..would love to see how you got the whole thing setup....
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[bigkissfan1973]

Yes -.-PhanTom-.- I do have some pics of my case - but it seems if they aren't on another web page u can't post em here - if you want to email me at big_kiss_fan@hotmail.com I'll gladly send you some pics.

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