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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet 
I agree...I have never had an issue with a logitech product, and my desk look like a Logitech advertisement 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| well availibty is good now, bestbuy has stoped selling the MX510 and are now selling the 518 i just got mine today and its the bomb. |
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One thing I should point out, is Logitech's mouse software..........it can be buggy with certain applications, since it incorporates "hotkeys", basically. I love my MX700, but I cannot use the Mouseware software with it, as it causes major glitches with Cubase, WaveLab, and various other sound engineering software.........and, it can even cause some problems in games. Just something to keep in mind, really. I'd want to test the mouse with my "business" software, before I could settle on it.......those resolution buttons might cause a problem.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| the resulution buttons can change DPI without software, only reason why you would install software is to remove mouse accel and to program the mouse a different way. |
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[TN] Nathan
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The DPI change is actually useless, why would you want to run at a lower resolution ever?
Makes no sense..... 
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yeah wuts with the gnarled look.. is that for increased performance while gaming
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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There is a typo underneath the second picture on this page
http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/mx518/index2.php
It should read "....doesn't CONSIST of anything special"
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| [TN] Nathan wrote: | The DPI change is actually useless, why would you want to run at a lower resolution ever?
Makes no sense..... |
well some people dont want to use 1600dpi for browseing the internet, so they switch it down to 800 or 400 and then when they open up a game that can change it to 1600 but like me i just keep it at 1600 lol, but hey its an extra feature that some peopel can enjoy cause you make a product that fits everyones needs not just some peoples needs. |
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[TN] Nathan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| FreeTheRock wrote: | | [TN] Nathan wrote: | The DPI change is actually useless, why would you want to run at a lower resolution ever?
Makes no sense..... |
well some people dont want to use 1600dpi for browseing the internet, so they switch it down to 800 or 400 and then when they open up a game that can change it to 1600 but like me i just keep it at 1600 lol, but hey its an extra feature that some peopel can enjoy cause you make a product that fits everyones needs not just some peoples needs. |
Since when will running at 1600dpi ruin surfing the internet? You won't even notice the difference and it isn't like the mouse will fail if you use 1600fpi all the time.
This feature is more of a toy than a real thing anyone would need. I use it at 1600dpi and have no problems at all.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ya me too i dunno man i guess its just a way to show off Logitech's capability of producing the ultimate mouse or something lol. |
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[TN] Nathan
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| Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| FreeTheRock wrote: | | ya me too i dunno man i guess its just a way to show off Logitech's capability of producing the ultimate mouse or something lol. |
Yea, that is true.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: Is Switching DPI Really Useless? |
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| I'm really confused after reading both your review and another review of the Logitech MX 518 mouse. Did you try switching dpi settings in different programs and checking the mouse movement speed, or did you just assume that the switch did what one would logically assume it does, and not try it out much? Just wondering, because this other review (in a major magazine) indicated that, after trying it out, he felt it did NOT do what one would logically assume. The other review indicated that the dpi switch did the opposite of what you seem to be saying it does (and what logic would seem to suggest it does); that is, the other review said lowering the 'dpi resolution' actually *increased* precision. He said it slowed down mouse movement, so that it took more mouse movement to cause the same on-screen movement, thus making it easier to make small, precisse movements (such as when drawing, touching up a photo, etc.), and that switching to 1600 dpi caused a smaller mouse movement to produce a greater on-screen movement (good for rapid movement accross the screen to click on a button, etc). In other words, his review would tend to indicate that the feature would be quite useful for 'switching gears' between slow, precise movement and rapid, coarser movement, depending on what your application or game required. I have frequently run accross games where the game mouse movement was far too fast or too slow to suit me, and had to adjust the mouse movment speed, then change it back when I was done playing. I was hoping that this feature on the mouse would make this easier to do 'on the fly' and solve some of my problems, but your review seems to indicate it does something else entirely. Now I'm really confused about what this feature really does. Can anyone clarify further? |
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[TN] Nathan
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It is only a toy.
I have been using it at 1600dpi and it is fine for doing any kind of work.
The enhanced precision means it is more responsive to smaller movements.
There is really no point in buying this mouse if you are not going to use the 1600dpi fulltime. And I am not going to lower the resulution in games so what is the point?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| [TN] Nathan wrote: | It is only a toy.
I have been using it at 1600dpi and it is fine for doing any kind of work.
The enhanced precision means it is more responsive to smaller movements.
There is really no point in buying this mouse if you are not going to use the 1600dpi fulltime. And I am not going to lower the resulution in games so what is the point? |
Apparently, you are still not getting what I'm saying (or else didn't fully read my first post), so I'll try again. According to the other reviews I've read (currently 2 other than yours), the 'dpi switch' does NOT actually change the resolution that the mouse operates at, despite its name, and that it is NOT 'more responsive to smaller movements' when switched to lower dpi settings, but actually MORE responsive to smaller movements. They are saying that the function is mis-named and does something entirely different from what one might assume it does. What I am suggesting is that you actually TEST the so-called 'lower-resolution' settings, to see if they are ACTUALLY lower-resolution, or if (as several other reviewers contend) they are either mis-labeled or reverse labeled. As I indicated in my original post, it would be useful to know what this function REALLY does, but so far your response doesn't sound like you have actually tested to see what it does, but have assumed it does what it says it does -- which is NOT TRUE, according to other sources. Can you confirm that you've actually tested the dpi mode switch objectively and concluded it reduces dpi resolution, or are you just reading the descriptions and assuming it does what it says it does, without really testing it? |
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[TN] Nathan
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| markel wrote: | | [TN] Nathan wrote: | It is only a toy.
I have been using it at 1600dpi and it is fine for doing any kind of work.
The enhanced precision means it is more responsive to smaller movements.
There is really no point in buying this mouse if you are not going to use the 1600dpi fulltime. And I am not going to lower the resulution in games so what is the point? |
Apparently, you are still not getting what I'm saying (or else didn't fully read my first post), so I'll try again. According to the other reviews I've read (currently 2 other than yours), the 'dpi switch' does NOT actually change the resolution that the mouse operates at, despite its name, and that it is NOT 'more responsive to smaller movements' when switched to lower dpi settings, but actually MORE responsive to smaller movements. They are saying that the function is mis-named and does something entirely different from what one might assume it does. What I am suggesting is that you actually TEST the so-called 'lower-resolution' settings, to see if they are ACTUALLY lower-resolution, or if (as several other reviewers contend) they are either mis-labeled or reverse labeled. As I indicated in my original post, it would be useful to know what this function REALLY does, but so far your response doesn't sound like you have actually tested to see what it does, but have assumed it does what it says it does -- which is NOT TRUE, according to other sources. Can you confirm that you've actually tested the dpi mode switch objectively and concluded it reduces dpi resolution, or are you just reading the descriptions and assuming it does what it says it does, without really testing it? |
Excuse me???, I tested it in all resolutions.
If you don't like the review, that is fine, but the review is as it stands.
I could care less what other review sites say about a product, I review the product INDEPENDENTLY and I don't go around checking out other site's reviews to create my own.
I tested the feature, and AGAIN, I will STATE, it is a TOY, and has no real use other than having something to play WITH.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| markel have you actualy tested the mouse yourself? i bought the mouse as soon as bestbuy got them in, took it home uninstalled my old but amazeing MX510 and installed the MX518 when i was moving the cursor around the desktop in 400dpi i hit the up button and it moved more quickly hit it again and it moved even more quickly so therefore there are different modes of DPI resolution. |
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| FreeTheRock wrote: | | markel have you actualy tested the mouse yourself? i bought the mouse as soon as bestbuy got them in, took it home uninstalled my old but amazeing MX510 and installed the MX518 when i was moving the cursor around the desktop in 400dpi i hit the up button and it moved more quickly hit it again and it moved even more quickly so therefore there are different modes of DPI resolution. |
Thank you! This is the information I was looking for -- clear, succinct facts on how it responded in the different modes. Thanks for your help. This answers my questions. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, now I get what you guys are talking about.
Markel, sorry for the confusion, I will edit the review right now.
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