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thyhammerr
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| 2old2care wrote: | Any device on the pci bus or it's respective driver can cause hardware stop errors...aka re-starting. This includes things on the mobo such as onboard NIC, USB, Firewire, etc. This is why all mobo drivers are important.
And why, I always tell ppl that chipset drivers first, then onboard drivers, then add on drivers.
The chipset is the traffic cop and should always be first. |
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To resolve this issue, use the appropriate method:
• If this is the first time you have started the computer after you install new hardware, remove the hardware and restart your computer.
• View the following Microsoft Hardware Compatibility List Web site to verify that the hardware and its drivers are compatible with Windows 2000:
http://www.microsoft.com/hcl/default.asp
For more information about your hardware, contact the manufacturer of your hardware.
• If you are installing Windows 2000 for the first time, verify that your computer meets the Windows 2000 system requirements, including the amount of RAM and disk space that are required to install the operating system.
• If Windows 2000 is loaded and no new hardware has been installed, restart your computer with the recovery options set to create a dump file. If the error message that is mentioned in the "Symptoms" section of this article continues to appear, select the Last Known Good option when you restart your computer. If there is no Last Known Good configuration, try to use the Emergency Repair Disk (ERD). |
there is some hardware issue.. insure every hardware is properly plugged in.. thats the best I could do ..
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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well, my system is not oc at all, I turn off all oc feature in it, the only thing that varies is the cool and quiet from amd. It's hard to detect what's wrong as it's not always restarting, like now, the system has been turned on for couple of days and it's working fine. I do suspect it maybe driver or software but it's hard to pin point what's wrong.
I also don't know if it's PSU as I trust antec, I do have a 500w psu but that's from allied, so I am not sure if the 500w would be neccessary better than my 380w truepoewr. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Can you monitor the voltages on that psu?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: |
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we have seen one of those 380 watters give up the ghost after about two weeks of use. And that doesnt give me alot of confidence in the units that Antec puts in their cases.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:33 am Post subject: |
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yeah, I can, it's funny, asus software give me diff reading than others
I got
12v=11.776
5v=5.026
3.3=3.328
While everest give me the following readin:
11.19
5.03
3.3
I don't konw which one to trust (well, I guess both is lower than standard but 11.19 is really low while the 11.776 is somewhat acceptable I guess)
Hey, KoG, the 380w give up, is it really heavy loaded? Also, are you talking about generic psu or the brand name psu? |
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thyhammerr
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: |
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hmm .. software might not be showing right..
I would suggest checking it by voltmeter or something.. (Multimeter)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Try the readings in the BIOS too.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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but that won't give readings under stress.. (at least thats wht i think  )
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| zhensem wrote: | | Try the readings in the BIOS too. |
ewll, asus's mobo reads the same number as bios (I think that's where the software got the number from). |
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all right. Today the system restart again. NOw I wasn't doing anything except donwloading files and I went away. when I came back--BSOD.
This is the error that I got:
Stop: 0x0000008E (0xc000001D, 0XB3DE5A8C, 0X00000000)
not sure how many zeros in between.
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thyhammerr
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can't find any thing on that error..
sorry ..
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anybody has any idea? Today the same error happen again. It's so annoying  |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Asus boards read the voltages on the 12v really low. I would get a multimeter and test. My asus board reads my 12v at 11.768 and my multimeter (w/ fresh batteries) reads it at 12.02v. I would really see if you could get a true voltage check. |
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If this were an Intel setup I would ask if the northbridge is hot?
But first...check to see what your voltage to your RAM is. Try 2.65 volts instead of 2.6...some modules (such as my hyperx) are a bit insensitive and like a smidge more. 
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okay I will try to change the ram's voltage and see if it helps. What I don't get is I am not doing anything with the system but I have it downloading stuff. I can understand if I am doing something that cause the restart but since I am not doing anyting just left it download, why would it restart by itself? I just can't think of any reason for this. Plus, it does not happen all the time or frequently. Sometimes I can leave it on for few days without any hitch.
I guess I will try to switch my other PSU(granted it's not as good as Antec but at least it has 500w (hopefully it's not that far from what it claims))
Maybe I will also contact Antec to get a PSU replacement.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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all right, someone has suggested that it maybe the puny 380w antec's power that has problem. I switched the psu and change to a 500w aspire psu. Granted, aspire is not as big psu company as antec but it's the only psu taht I have now.
Anyhow, the strange thing is even with the 500w, my 12v reading is still very low. Now I got 11.25 for the 12v. is it that my mobo is reading these voltage wrong or that these 2 psu are just have the same 12v.
I am confused with the psu, I don't know should I ship the antec's psu to the manufacture to get it replaced? |
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JayDubya
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Are you using software or a multimeter? Its hard to trust software IMOHO. There is alot of deviation in products to uses the software's calculations accurately.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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for true readings of your psu you need to use a DVOM (digital Volt/Ohm meter) and test the voltages that way. The software lies, plain and simple.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: |
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software, don't have a voltmeter at hand. I know that the software reading is iffy but my intel system is pretty consistant with the reading(well, pretty close to the actual number, don't know if it's real correct:)).
I don't have a voltmeter and even if I do, I don't konw how to use it, that's why I have not yet to get it.
I am just cuirous as if the psu is related to the restart problem. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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The restart problem is most likely due to instability. Bad PSU's can cause voltage spikes or troughs and cause this instability. have you run prime95 or memtest86 yet? :
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| JayDubya wrote: | | The restart problem is most likely due to instability. Bad PSU's can cause voltage spikes or troughs and cause this instability. have you run prime95 or memtest86 yet? : |
I did ran the memtest for like 9-10hours without any problems. I even switch the PSU with 500w (although it's aspire, not antec but my antec is 380w while this aspire is 500w).
The weird thing is even when I switched the PSU, my 12v is still reading as 11.2 with everest or pc wizard while my asus is reading as 11.7ish. |
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thyhammerr
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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err...
wait.. it ain 't Restarting again ?
I mean is it working fine or not..
if not .. then run 2 final test ..
1: Change Ram
2: Change mobo..
thats it .. it ll point to the prob..
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| thyhammerr wrote: | err...
wait.. it ain 't Restarting again ?
I mean is it working fine or not..
if not .. then run 2 final test ..
1: Change Ram
2: Change mobo..
thats it .. it ll point to the prob..
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the problem is still there. Just yesterday it's restarting again. I haven't seen anyone posting anything, so I am seeking help all over the net. I switched the ram slots (switch my 2 ram's places). The PSU doesn't seem to be the problem as I switch them and it's still there. I switch couple of pci card as I think maybe it's sharing irq problem, but still not helping. I am considering RMA the mobo/ram to see if that helps. It's just it's a huge work and I may not be able to have a working system if I do so. |
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