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Moving a DELL motherboard into a new case - problems?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:28 pm    Post subject: Moving a DELL motherboard into a new case - problems? Reply with quote

I've been considering transplanting my Dell-based computer into a new case for some time now, but I've put it on hold ever since coming to these forums and hearing what can go wrong. Apparently considerable... ehm.... difficulties can arrise when transferring a Dell to a new case.

Problem #1:
EVOpilot wrote:
Dell mother boards don't have holes to screw them onto the case.... they just connect via little hooks and retainers. How can I get the mobo in the case so it doesn't fall off?? Zip ties??
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Is this a problem with only ceratain models and cases, or wll there seriously be no way to secure my mobo to the case except with zip ties? This system came pre-built so I've never really noticed how the motherboard is secured, but I'll take a look.

Problem #2:
meobius wrote:
if your serious about moving it watch the powersupply on some models the connections are inversed, so using anything other than the dell powersupply will cause the board to blow up.


I'm actually not too worried about this one, in a different topic several people assured me that my 8250 would be fine with a new PSU. So moving on to #3...

Problem #3:
Ham_fisT wrote:
I moved a dell over to a new case last month.. no probs with the mobo holes or the atx power conn. but the damn front panel connections had to be completely reverse-engineered
( I found out about the power supply thing AFTER I was finished, Guess I got lucky). I HATE DELL!!!


Okay... so Ham_fisT didn't encounter the mobo-hole problem or the psu problem, but he had to reverse-engineer the front panel connections (something which I am sure I would irreversibly screw up) What the hell is wrong with Dell that they make everything so damn difficult?!

Problem #4:
It just doesn't fit.

I couldn't find a quote for this one, but I'm sure I heard it somewhere - that a lot of Dell mobos do no fit properly in a lot of cases...


So which (if any) of these problems am I likely to encounter with my Dimension 8250? I've transferred cases on other computers before and I've never had any problems at all, but transferring a Dell seems to be trickier. Thanks for any help or advice.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it all depends on the dell you have, if you have a big tower case one, then most likely it will fit in a new case but yuo are going to have to buy a new processor fan becasue all dells use ducting to blow air onto the processor its not a fan sitting directly on top of the heatsink.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah..I didn't have any problems with mounting, it was a standard Micro-ATX bolt pattern, and the PSU was not a problem.
from all I've heard, the Dell's made in the last few years are pretty much standard now, aside from the front panel attachments, reverse engineering them is not all that difficult, for the power switch and lights, anyway, but I didn't even try with the USB ports.
my advice is... keep it in the original case, there is really no need for better cooling, as you can't overclock it anyway. if you want a better looking PC...just start from scratch an build one in a case you find attractive. then give the Dell to your sister for a Solitare-Blaster
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do it for one reason........money. If you want to upgrade your machine, they don't want you going to CompUSA to do it, they want you to come back to them, and the easiest way to do that is to ensure that you HAVE to come back to them........by making even just one thing non-standard. It's not as bad as it used to be. Only a few years ago, you couldn't even replace the floppy drive in a Compaq, Dell, or Gateway with a store-bought cheapie, they'd reversed 4 of the middle pins. So instead of spending $10 at your local discount shop, you had to spend $30 plus shipping from the company. And don't even ask about replacing a bad hard drive.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would keep it in the original case except fpr the fact that the heavy steel Dell case seems to be losing its structural integrity. The case will, when standing upright, be able to wobble back and forth and the plastic paneling is becoming all discombobulated. One of the sides on the clamshell case won't latch closed anymore, either. What's up with this? The case seems sturdy enough (its made of steel) but its coming all apart. And what's this about having to buy a new processor fan?

This project is pushing my modding skills to the limit, and none of my friends have any sort of advanced computer skills at all. Could anyone refer me to a guide that might help?

I'll post some pics with my digital camera so everyone is sure of what I'm dealing with here.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dell cools off the cpu's in their desktops by having a fan in the back of the case blowing in and they use a duct to have the air blow ontot he heatsink insteas of having a fan directly connected to the heatsink, you really can't do this in a custom case, so you would have to buy a new HS/F for your processor unless somehow you could make the duct fit your new case which im sure it wouldn't
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not 100% sure FTR, but I think the 8250 has a fan and duct on the back that blows air OUT to cool the processor.
But you are correct in the fact that he will prolly need a new HSF.
Doing anything more than adding memory to a Dell sucks....and sometimes even that sucks
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