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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:47 pm    Post subject: wrong temperatures Reply with quote

I checked my bios, and my CPU temperatures are about 50C idle. and with a thermalright SLK-800A, and artic silver 3 applied correctly, it narrows down to the CPU and motherboard. So, I am returning those, along with the heatsink and fan. I am going to get intel, due to more stabability and cooler temperatures. I am actually not to upset, and in a way happy about this, because all it does make me more familiar with computers. By the way, and suggestions on an intel motherboard, thats under $150?


Thanks a lot, and about that CD burner thing DMW, its secondary slave, and I'll have to check the jumpers on it, thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud, you don't return a CPU and motherboard because of temperatures, maybe you don't have enough case ventilation or something.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe...slow down eli.
first off...most ALL built in thermal sensors are incorrect....they just are and that's the way it is.... and that is also the reason for items like the DigiDoc5 and other hardware add-on type measuring devices.
what "stability issues" are you having?
other than setting your bios to the correct FSB you haven't mentioned anything else.
also have you updated the NForce drivers as well as flashed to the latest bios?
Don't think that by jumping ship you are going to escape these issues.
An Athlon is rated by AMD to safely run up to around 65C...after that , well you know.

you do know that many people are getting theri 2500s to post as 3000s..right?

go ahead...feed the machine that is intel...and one day when things start to come together for you...you will realize that AMD 'IS' the answer. We have all been there.... (except me of course, I started with AMD and will reaim so....every PC I build is AMD, NO Exceptions)

a few of your posts would seem show that you might be a bit quick to judge, or take to heart too much of what you read out there....take your time.

why not post a few pix of what you machine looks like....a few of us might be able to offer a simple solution to your issues.

as for the Plextor thing, I only use Plextor as well and it's a pretty common thing with most burners....for some reason they LIKE to be on the master side of the chain.

not really too sure that google gear is going to take back your hardware just because you think it runs too hot.

figure that for a decent (*cough cough*) intel board you are going to want a Granite Bay or similar to take advantage of the dual channel DDR...
195.00
and to get the performance of a Barton2500running at 1.8GHz you are going to need a P4 2.4 to 2.6GHZ cpu...
from 172.00 to 225.00
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, you guys are pretty right about this, my heatsink and fan have been advertized to give temperatures no over 35, even in full load, so its either them, or its the wrong temperature. So, the reason about this thing is, to tell the truth, I am scared to oped up my heatsink, and put a thermal diode, because wont it get all over the cpu? but if you think thats right, I think I'll do that, let me know


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

O, about the case ventilation. I think I do, I have 3 antec case fans, I mean how many do you need. I was planning on getting more anyways, once I get more save up more money.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, I'll do that, but could you what if there's some arctic silver somewhere else on the CPU except for the die? dont most CPU's have thermal past on them when taken off? O and what thermal mesurer do you recommed I use for checking the temps.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so I took a part my whole computer, and put these little plastic things around all the power supply cables, and I I changed the plextor CD burner to sec master, and the bios read it right, thanks DMW. and I checked my temperatures right when I started up my computer in the bios, and they read under 40C. As long as they stay under 65C, as DMW noted, then I dont need to do much.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eli wrote:
Ya, I'll do that, but could you what if there's some arctic silver somewhere else on the CPU except for the die? dont most CPU's have thermal past on them when taken off? O and what thermal mesurer do you recommed I use for checking the temps.


CPUs do not come with themal paste on them...usually there is a thermal pad on the HSF (the stuff is crap and does not transfer heat very well. Your CPU will normally ready hotter with the pad than it will with the AS3.
This really shouldn't be an issue....just apply it similarly to the way shown in the video. If some does get elsewhere, then just use a Q-Tip wet with alcohol to clean off the excess (leave no fuzzies)


eli wrote:
OK, so I took a part my whole computer, and put these little plastic things around all the power supply cables.


uhhh.. you mean tie wraps??? I hope.


eli wrote:
O, about the case ventilation. I think I do, I have 3 antec case fans, I mean how many do you need. I was planning on getting more anyways.


3 can be sufficient, depending on the case....where they are located....etc.
Placement is key. Remember how we mentioned this a while back?


eli wrote:
to tell the truth, I am scared to oped up my heatsink, and put a thermal diode, because wont it get all over the cpu?


were you referring to the AS3?
lastly...did you buy a combo deal where the board came with the CPU & HSF attached already?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DMW,

I used arctic sliver with a SLK-800 heatsink, and from what I heard, your not supposed get the arctic silver anywhere else besides the CPU die. If I take it off, it will most likely be smeared all around the CPU, and thats not good right? Could you please tell me how the temperature diodes work, I am really interested in getting one.


Thanks for your help!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, tie raps
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

install the heatsink with the thermal paste on the die ONLY!!

Please do NOT smear it all over your CPU, doing this will kill your CPU.

Dude, you really need to do some research before you do these things.

Install case fans in all the places available in your case, therefore you will get the maximum airflow.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I researched it Nathan. I printed out the instructions from the Arctic Silver's website. Some of my older friends who know a lot about computers came over, and guided me while I did it, so theres nothing to really worry about, all I really want to know is the right temperatures. What temperature diode would you recommend I get?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O and yes I know where to install the case fans I have a bunch more coming in the mail, so thats taken care of
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2003 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once all your fans are installed, you will have better air circulation in your case which means your case temperature should drop.

Therefore your heatsink will be able to cool the cpu better seeing that it is cooling with colder air.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good, thanks a lot
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