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LOGITECH Z-5500 5.1 DIGITAL 500WATT RMS SPEAKER SYSTEM
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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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O.k. stock sorry about that.
I want to ask another question about the analog cables.
We know, in the box of z5500 we only have analog cables. No optic or coaxial cables are included. And I think these analog cables are in silver end in connectivity. I have another analog connecting cable with golden end used for creative. When I use them (the golden ended ones) does it mean to have a better quality for sound?


Zero difference in performance. It's the exact same plug as the silver ones, just with a gold coating. Like Hammy said, corrosion resistance.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if I have a corrosion problem with the cables of z5500, then it means I'll be able to use the other cables of creative..
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: bare cable ends Reply with quote

I just took delivery of a set of z-5500's yesterday. Awesome!

One interesting thing: they came with bare cable ends and spring loaded connectors on the back of the sub and the satellites. That means I can use the speaker wire already built into my house for the rear speakers, yahoo!

Most reviewers agree that the fixed wiring and rca plug attaxhment is one of the least desirable changes when comparing the z-5500's to the earlier z-680's.

Have Logitech bowed to pressure here, or is the New Zealand model somehow different?
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you're gonna love those things....untill you get evicted for noise violations

all Z-5500's now ship with spring connectors, and separate speaker wire. it seems Logitech did indeed bow to the masses.
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 4:36 pm    Post subject: LOGITECH Z-5500 5.1 vs KLIPSCH Promedia Ultra 5.1 - Which ? Reply with quote

Trying to decide which speaker system to buy. Games, DVD then music is the priority importance of listening.

Looking for comments/feedback.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Odd z-5500 problem Reply with quote

I now have my z-5500 set up. I have the DVD player going to the optical digital input and my media pc (mini-itx) going to the coax digital input.

Everything from the DVD player is fine. However the media pc does not always work properly.

I am playing a recorded tv program presently. The sound is not getting to the speakers properly. It is not a dts or dolby digital soundtrack but a stereo soundtrack. As I understand it the sound card should be sending thru the two stereo channels digitally to the z-5500 which should play it in stereo (or expand it to 6 channels via dolby PLII). However no sound happens. The z-5500 screen is showing "Dolby PLII Movie". But, and here is the really odd bit, if I hit the "Settings" button or the "Level" button the sound comes through, and stays on until the screen goes back to showing it s default thing (Input Coax, Effect PL II Movie)

It doesn't change if I change "Effect" to any of the other settings. I have turned the whole thing on and off again (after a good wait), rebooted the PC, checked the sound card settings on the PC (which I hadn't changed anyway, but ya gotta check!)

Any suggestions? I am sure it was working properly yesterday.

Nick, puzzled in NZ.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a Dolby Digital disc in the pc?, or tried the TV content through the 6 channel Analog connection?

Make sure that any software decoders are turned OFF when you use the digital connections.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Have you tried a Dolby Digital disc in the pc?,


the pc doesn't have a dvd yet, but I have tried ac3 divx's and they work

but videos encoded with mp3 don't have any digital sound out. My impression was that they should be decoded to (stereo) PCM and sent out the spdif port and then treated as a stereo pcm stream by the z-5500 (and turned into 5.1 by Dolby PLII)

And whats really worrying me is that I am sure it was doing that, it no longer does. I would think I had done something weird to the computer, except that there is that weird stuff where I can get the sound to play by pressing the Settings or Level buttons.

Is it fried? Should I be asking about the warranty?
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would contact logitech, just to be on the safe side.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all. Great forum, really.

I've just got this question, maybe it has been answered 599 times before but I didn't want to read through 12 pages.. ^^

Anyways, I've going to buy this Logitech Z-5500, and I've got a normal (maybe bad) soundcard, Realtek AC'97 Audio.
Will this soundcard work fine with this set?

Thank you very much and keep writing great reviews, Nate!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can we prevent this "pop" noise when a light source is turned on or off at home?? It drives me crazy especially while doing something busy and suddenly that noise comes out!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolverine61 wrote:
How can we prevent this "pop" noise when a light source is turned on or off at home?? It drives me crazy especially while doing something busy and suddenly that noise comes out!!!


To solve that problem, all you need to do is use Ferrite cored loops on all the power and signal cables. These are really cheap from most electronics stores. They look like a dark gray-metalic, thick ring and all you do is wrap the wire around the core a few times, usually (for low frequencies) 6 to 12 turns is more than enough to eliminate or at least reduce the "pop" or other static noise from the amp circuit. simple, cheap but effective. It's a sort of single wound tordial transformer, which should filter out any transient voltages (electrical noise) induced in the cables from electrical loads being switched. should also work to reduce any "hum" from dirty power lines reaching the amp circuits which would be heard from the speakers.

Chances are just using a loop on the power cable alone will solve the problem. You could also try looping the power cable round your finger 6 times and tie it up in a knot, it serves the same job and it's free, but it might not be as effective. give it a shot though anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicon Skum wrote:
wolverine61 wrote:
How can we prevent this "pop" noise when a light source is turned on or off at home?? It drives me crazy especially while doing something busy and suddenly that noise comes out!!!


To solve that problem, all you need to do is use Ferrite cored loops on all the power and signal cables. These are really cheap from most electronics stores. They look like a dark gray-metalic, thick ring and all you do is wrap the wire around the core a few times, usually (for low frequencies) 6 to 12 turns is more than enough to eliminate or at least reduce the "pop" or other static noise from the amp circuit. simple, cheap but effective. It's a sort of single wound tordial transformer, which should filter out any transient voltages (electrical noise) induced in the cables from electrical loads being switched. should also work to reduce any "hum" from dirty power lines reaching the amp circuits which would be heard from the speakers.

Chances are just using a loop on the power cable alone will solve the problem. You could also try looping the power cable round your finger 6 times and tie it up in a knot, it serves the same job and it's free, but it might not be as effective. give it a shot though anyway.

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Many thanks for your great explanation. Do you have a photo of this kind of cable? If you have, please shoot it here, it is very hard to explain this sort of cable here in my country to the electrics guys..
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depending on what country your in, it might be easier to order from on online electronics site. These often go by the terms "ferrites" "ferrite cores" or under the heading "emi suppression".

There are two types of cores available for this purpose, ring type which you wind the cable through a few times, and a "snap on" type which is a longer tube that is split in two halfs and clips over the straight cable. pics and info here:

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/other/other_components_ferrite_cores.htm

I've used this company for parts, they will ship overseas:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=380&MenuName=Ferrites&FromMenu=y&doy=4m7

There are many other supliers, do a google search for online stores / supliers or companies / shops in your country, most electronic parts supliers will stock these, and they are very cheap. some HIFI audio places stock them too, it's quite common to use these in audio stuff.
You may already have one which you could use to "try before you buy", they are often attached to computer peripherals, or any sensitive electronic device, also check the signal cable on your monitor, there may be a small plastic box that is cliped over the cable, if it feels heavy and can be moved along the cable, then it's probably a ferrite core EMI suppressor which you can just unclip (there may already be one or two built INTO the signal cable, these are a round lump at either end, these cannot be removed).

You will only need ONE per cable, and place them as close to the amp connections as possible. Or you could just add them to the longest cables or even JUST one on the mains power cable, the power cable of the amp being the most important to use the suppresion on, as it is the most likley to be picking up the electrical noise from the switches in your house.

Good luck
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Silicon Skum, great thanks again. You've given valuable information and this is the knowledge they call.. I hope to give an end to this nuisance thanks to your assist.. If I succeed, then I'll inform in here...
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aresius wrote:
Hello all. Great forum, really.

I've just got this question, maybe it has been answered 599 times before but I didn't want to read through 12 pages.. ^^

Anyways, I've going to buy this Logitech Z-5500, and I've got a normal (maybe bad) soundcard, Realtek AC'97 Audio.
Will this soundcard work fine with this set?

Thank you very much and keep writing great reviews, Nate!


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I believe that is full surround so you will be completely fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm ok.. Everyone that Ihave asked told me I would only have sound through 2 speakers, since I can just plug in the system in that green output back there on the computer.. To get the surround sound I need another output, they say.

But I dont know.. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmmm ok.. Everyone that Ihave asked told me I would only have sound through 2 speakers, since I can just plug in the system in that green output back there on the computer.. To get the surround sound I need another output, they say.

But I dont know.. :)


My mistake, yea, you have 2 channel.

Best to get a soundcard first.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ac'97 can be up to 5.1, just check the plugs on your motherboard, if theres 3 audio outputs (obviously excluding the microphone) then it's 5.1. Never the less I would buy a new soundcard for better performance. I got myself an Audigy 2 Value. Perfect card with these speakers because the logitech decoder handles everything the card can't do like DTS, but it can do everything the decoder can't, like EAX 4.0 for games (and it's dirt cheap).
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh you only have a green one... well in that case your only option is to buy a new soundcard.
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LordPaludis wrote:
oh you only have a green one... well in that case your only option is to buy a new soundcard.


Sometimes It will have only three but the software configures those 3 plugs for 5.1 use.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike89 wrote:
Well I have these speakers now. Great sound.

I do have some issues though. I have yet to figure out how to hook this up digitally to the Audigy 2.

I tried using an adapter that is a stereo 1/8" male plug on one end that goes into the Audigy 2 digital connection and the other end is a female RCA. I then hooked up a RCA coax cable to it and the other end to the RCA connection on the Z-5500.

I then swithed to digital sound on the Audigy control panel and the Z-5500 control center. No sound whatsoever! The Z-5500 control center show "no data". I tried this with both the Audigy 2 speaker check and a Digital DVD movie.

When I switch back over to analog, everything works fine.

Beats me if I can figure this out. The Audigy 2 quick start guide shows the digital connection as a 4 pin 1/8" miniplug. I'll be damned if I can find an adapter that has that on one end and and a RCA jack on the other. Reading some info on the Creative site says only a mono jack is needed to plug into the Audigy 2 digital connection since only the tip of the pin picks up the signal. So what's the deal with a 4 pin connection then? Especially when it goes into an RCA cable which only has one wire.

I have heard it said that the Audigy 2 decoder has to be disabled and also the decoder on the DVD software for the digital connection to work with the Z-5500. I have tried this combination also and still no sound when trying to go digital.

If someone has the same set up as me and has got digital sound to work, I would sure love to know what was done to do it.


Ham_fisT wrote:
You need a MONO 1/8" to RCA cable, the stereo one won't work

I don't have this set of speakers, but I have had my Audigy connected this way to my Home Theater Receiver

Radio Shack will have what you need


HI! my first time here and i need some help. i was planing on buying these but when i read this i got cunfused. first whats the diffrence of analog and digital sound? is it that big diff? and where can i get the thingy i needed for the digital? is it expansive? i live in sweden btw so we have no radio shack here... sorry for all the ? plz answer thx

Sorry for my bad english

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there really isn't all that much difference in SOUND QUALITY, between analog and digital, but a lot depends on your computer's soundcard, (or onboard sound), for instance, the Audigy soundcards require a cable with a MONO 1/8" plug on one end, and an RCA connector on the other, it should be available at any stereo/home entertainment type store.

Some soundcards, or motherboards have either optical, or coaxial outputs, and can connect straight to the Z-5500's with a simple optical or coaxial cable.

If you could tell us a little more about your computer, or whatever you plan to hook these speakers up to, we can help you figure out what you may need.


oh yeah....your english is great
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was planning to buy a new soundcard at the same time, an audidgy 2 zs

not much more to tell about my pc i think...

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can u send me any internet links for those 2 thingys so i can see what it is?. that would be very nice off u...
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