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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

Joined: 19 Jun 2004 Posts: 410
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: This normal ? |
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I have a 90 mm intake fan ,a 120 mm exaughst fan ,one on my Powersupply and a fan on my cpu. with a duct on the side of my case directing air Away and out of my case.
My wires are a little "untidy" . My idle temps are CPU- 21-24 and board at idle 33-37. Full load cpu-30-34 but my board goes to 42-47. Is this normal temps. for my board or are they high?? and is my cpu temps, good ? |
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Zero_Fresh UberTweaker

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Those aren't bad. _________________ "....Or as almost every word in a sentence; Tweak the tweaking tweakers!"
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smith.p.sean UberTweaker
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 1595 Location: orlando, UCF
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| wow, had to delete that last one, cause i read it an it made no sence, so second attempt. Where are u getting the temps from cause it seems to me that they are switched. Thats a great cpu temp... but the board is kinda lousy, really lousy. I cant imagine the board being hotter than the chip. Its like they got flipped or something cause if they are flipped then it sounds just about right with a cooler board and the chip warmer than the board. |
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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I am using the asus probe that came with my mobo. Just idling here reading threds and surfing the web my cpu is 23' or 73 and board is 33 or 91'. My cou unit looks like it has a very large fan sitting on it and my antec case has a sweet duct going about 1 inch away from the cpu sucking the hot air out of the case |
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smith.p.sean UberTweaker
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| .. even so... the board temps shouldnt be hotter than the chip/??? |
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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thismeans he has poor air flow.......get some more fans in that case....
maybe install a blowhole fan on top exhausting air......
another rear exhaust and another front intake....and if your ambitious.....a side panel intake by your vid card
waht is your ambient room temp?? _________________
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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

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[TN] Nathan ALMIGHTY PWNER!

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:57 am Post subject: |
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This is not correct.
CPU can not be colder than the ambient air.
Do not trust those numbers at all.
Install Motherboard Monitor and trash the Asus Probe or look for an update for it. It is obviously screwed up. _________________ Owner & Administrator
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Silicon Skum UberTweaker
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: |
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ummm has anyone thought about looking in the BIOS? under the pc health thingey it should have the CORRECT values taken directly from the winbond chip. if this is wrong also, I would check the board for faults.
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smith.p.sean UberTweaker
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: |
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| yea, like i said before... it just doesnt work like that.... u cant have a board thats hotter than ur chip and def not the surrounding air... without like vapochill... and a fridge.... and now someone will prove me wrong. But thats my 2 cents. Like SS said, check the BIOS for the temps. |
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Josh TWEAKGURU

Joined: 22 Feb 2004 Posts: 4192 Location: United States of Kindom
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Also update the BIOS from the manufacturer web site, they generally have temp reading improvements in them. As nate said, it is physically impossible for something cooling with the case air to be cooler than it....also MBM 5 is great, has lots of cool features such as average temps laid out in tables etc, not essential, but fun none the less  _________________ »4 RS«»1Ж «»1 DENE«»1 FREAKIN LAME OH«»1 MONEY MONEY«
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| [TN] Nathan wrote: | This is not correct.
CPU can not be colder than the ambient air.
Do not trust those numbers at all.
Install Motherboard Monitor and trash the Asus Probe or look for an update for it. It is obviously screwed up. |
i agree that there is something not right here....but he says his ambient temp is 17-20 when his chip is about 21-24...........hits 37 at load......still really low.....but not below room temp.......i would tidy up those wires....it should help _________________
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2old2care Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Explain your side fan again, please... You are trying to suck air out?
with 90 in (front) 120 out (back) shouldn't the side fan be going in...Maybe I just didn't understand. _________________ .
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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Ok guys running MBM ( mother Board Monitor) Readings as i type: case 30C cpu 22C . Just booted up pc for 1st time today. Why doesn't this seem correct nathan? Bios was updated about 3-4 days ago. I don't have a side fan , there is a duct/tube that goes right to the chip and directs air away. Now that i am finished posting my temps are case 32C cpu 21C.
Is my case bad nathan or my cpu too low and can your chip run too cool ? |
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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Ambient air is around 17-20 my chips isn't cooler but just a few C above room temp |
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Zero_Fresh UberTweaker

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:39 am Post subject: |
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The duct work on the chip should blow air directly ON the the heatsink.. Not away from it. _________________ "....Or as almost every word in a sentence; Tweak the tweaking tweakers!"
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Yoshida UberTweaker

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| yeah those case temps look pretty high to me, and the cpu temps look really low. whats your room temp? |
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:46 am Post subject: |
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cold is your chips best frined......but something still doesnt sit right.......
ignoring the CPU temps for a second....i still think the case temps are too high....and should be remedied.....my above post explains how i would do it......
as for the cpu post some pics so we can see what your talking about
do you knwo what kind of heatsink you have? _________________
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2old2care Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:48 am Post subject: |
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No...I've seen the ducts he's talking about, I understand now. Your mobo temps are high, it might be just bogus sensing but I bet you need more air directed toward the northbridge and prolly memory. If it's what I'm thinking, you got a "dead spot" right there in that part of the case, caused by the cpu ductwork. IMHO _________________ .
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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thats what i was imagining as well.......similar to one of those old dell duct things.....directs air towards the rear exhaust......more air flow is necessary.....=] _________________
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Zero_Fresh UberTweaker

Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 1450 Location: Between PA and the ocean
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Ok... I was thinking of something like the duct work I have in my PC. I haven't seen anything like what you two are describing. (Not a big Dell fan =] )
Sorry bout that. _________________ "....Or as almost every word in a sentence; Tweak the tweaking tweakers!"
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2old2care Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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^^^ there you guys go using that 4 letter word. The one that ends in two L's _________________ .
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ToggleHead TWEAKGURU

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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sorry for the foul language....i promise it was STRICKLEY for comparison purposes....=] _________________
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PhRoZeN_X_ SirTweaksabit

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2old2care Lord of the Tweak

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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, I see now...the case/board is okay temp range, and your CPU is nice and cool with the duct arrangement. I think we were a bit fooled by the numbers, since your ambients and cpu are really nice. It would be nice to get a bit more air to the bridge. Wonder if you could get a small fan for that sink? _________________ .
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