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Guide to making round IDE cables.
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smith.p.sean
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:24 pm    Post subject: Guide to making round IDE cables. Reply with quote

Tired of staring at ur flat hard to place IDE cables but are like me and too cheap to buy round ones... look no further. For this mod, u need a color of electrical tape taht will look good inside ur case, blue , black for stealth. Get an exactp knife or a really sharp razor blade, i found that pushing little wholes as u slide down works better than sliding because u can slip, so make a little cut, then spread with fingers, about every five wires. Then you can put a smal wrap of tape in the middle and two ends. Then start from one end and wrap the tape all the way around to the other end.. cut tape. and tada, u have a nice round and positionable ide cable!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hell yaeh! i cant think why i never thought of that... guess what i'm doin tonight? if TH wasn't my fave you'd be on top :-D...... not sexualy speaking......
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why use electrical tabe to seal the cable up, why not use some PVC tubing, or for a much better look why not use some silicone rubber tubing. the silicone is available in a lot of difernt colours. some types of PVC tube will glow under UV light.
A small section of heatshrink tubing (electrial supplies or possibly car accessory shops) over each end and heat with a hair drier. Job done.

maybe use braided type tubing, maybe fuel pipe or similar.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well ss good luck getting that over the wire...
i mean.. i have tried and i have even taken the pins out... but im not sure if the cable works... if it does, then i have sleeved it with UV sleeving..
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no need to pull the cable apart, just cut down the back of the tubing and clip over, use the heatshrink to seal the ends up. you could use a thin bead of glue or silicone sealant to close the cut in the tube if it causes a problem. a few cable ties will glow under uv and these could be used to add extra interest.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooooooooo this gave me an idea.......heh heh

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT WORKS, i took off the conncetor carefully, and put sleeving over the wire... then i just electircal taped where the heatshrink would go because its easier and reconnected, and now i have my very own made, uv round ide cable :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm..... <thinks to self, Damn did I just say that out loud, or just think it? Can they hear me? > Think I'm giving away too many of my secrets

Oh well glad to help

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, u gave me the idea, but i actually took off the connector, and put sleeving over the wire, and made the one part black between the drives for a stealth affect, and im already in the process of adding red ties onto my uv blue sleeving in my silver and red thermaltake xaser III lanfire, it looks sweet. Next im painting my keyboard black and im going to add red cold cathodes inside it so it glows (with an on off switch of course, thats where apple usb keyboards come in handy because they have a power button on them u can mod )!!! :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done this three times. It worked great on 2 cables but I think the third one had some interference. I continually got mass coruptions after the mod. Even during and after reformats
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ew... so like.. .did it screw ur install? and all ur stuff?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, a few installs were horrible. After a while, the original installation just went bonkers. Very slow and very errorsome. Kinda like having a fragmented hard drive along with bad ram.

New IDE cable fixed it right up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what did you do? if sleeving then its probably cause you'd have to take out the end, you must've **cked up the connector when you put it back on.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or....
http://www.twistedmods.com/article.php?artid=34

hehe, that one has pictures :) good job frnch
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I never took of the connector, never severed any of the lines, I never even stripped any of the insulation. Just when I wound it back together, Interference was caused. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened to the other ones.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea it probably was just a bad cable...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea... im sure it was just bad especially if u didnt remove the connector like i did... that still kinda scares me though so is there any way to test the connecctions before i fragment my system?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use a multi meter to test the resistance on all the pins. they should have the same reading., if using an 80 pin ATA cable, this may not hold true, Not sure but I recall somthing about diodes being fitted into the connectors. if so this could affect the readings, but you'll notice a pattern forming from the results.

failing that just hook up an old drive that you don't mind corrupting

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks m8... now where the hell is that.. i know its here in the garage somewhere...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I had been using that cable for about 3 months before I did the mod. I am 99.999% sure that there was interference caused by the way I wrapped it up or just a cable that was bad for magnetic field leakage. I don't know yet.

Anyway, the other two are working great!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somtimes you have to wrap a shielding around the cable, so that the cable is sandwiched together withe the shield. You could try Mylar or turkey foil. Think of a shielded UTP patch cable.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am almost positive that it is an internal interference. Maybe sandwiching/sheilding it in sections, you mean? Good idea once again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what i was thinking too.....i run a lot of audio through telephone wires at my job and i ALWAYS have to worry about crosstalk...but...thats analog
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could it possibly be heating problems, i don't think those cables run hot at all but they might to pretty sensitive even at low levels.... just a thought i'm not sure if this is even a case
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToggleHead wrote:
thats what i was thinking too.....i run a lot of audio through telephone wires at my job and i ALWAYS have to worry about crosstalk...but...thats analog


Any electrical signal will induce a signal in a parallel wire, it's more of a problem in digital applications as it's data being crossed over.

Heat should'nt be an issue, though the quality of the cable used is. If it was cheap stuff it may only JUST function when flat, but stable enough not to scream out "PROBLEM!". using somthing like a steel braiding around the cables should hep reduce the inductive loading, better if grounded to case.

your comp probably saw 101001101 2 and sat there thinking " 2, WTF?!?" Binary gag

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