My computers gonna EXPLODE if it doesnt get cool!!

PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

Ok, here are my system specs...

AMD 64 3200+
ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128MB
SoundBlaster Live! Sound Card
512MB Kingston DDR400 PC3200 RAM
250GB Hitachi 7200rpm 8mb SATA Hard Drive
CD-RW Drive
DVD-RW Drive

all in...

a Plastic Gazelle PC Case
(http://www.thecrucible.ca/reviews/justpc899/) <<<a review of the case w/ specs

The problem is is my comp is wayyy too hot, and the case has VERY few options for cooling. It has one intake fan location in the bottom for a 120mm fan and one case fan on the back for an 80mm fan.

I need suggestions as to what fans /air flow i should use to make sure this computer runs cool and doesnt overheat.

Considering I only have room for ONE intake fan and ONE exhaust fan, I need some opinions!!

Help guys!!!!

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Troy · SirTweaksabit Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 497

I would intall a blowhole on top but this will require some handyman work.
But it is well worth it.
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

agreed......and maybe bore out the back one a bit to fit a 120mm........what about water?
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Troy · SirTweaksabit Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 497

Btw post your cpu,system, and case temps.
This will help to see where the heating problem is coming from.
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

How do i check my temps across my whole system? Do i need to download a program or just look at it when i'm starting my computer by going into my BIOS?

And what do you mean by blowhole?

PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

I just downloaded some kind of program called "motherboard monitor 5" and it says my case temp is 35degrees Celsisus and my cpu temp is 50degrees celsius.

I dont know how to get any other temps...?

JayDubya · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject:

what kind of motherboard do you have? go to their website and you will be able to download a program to check your system and cpu temps.

a blowhole is an exhaust fan at the top of your case. it uses the principle that hot air rises to cool your system. the fan on the top pulls all of the warm air that usually pools at the top of your case and will exhaust it upwards. these are a great way to drop temps when you really need it.

watercooling would not be a bad idea at all if the blowhole doesn't help much.

as for fan configuration, people usually pull air in from the front/bottom of the case and ehaust it through the back/top of the case. this is the best method of cooling by air.
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

I have an Albatron K8X800 Pro motherboard for AMD 64 processors.

I went to www.Albatron.com.tw and they dont have a program for monitoring temperatures.

A big problem with installing a blowhole on the top of the case is that it is a plastic external case with a full steel internal structure, so making a hole would be near impossible anywhere on the case.

So, I guess the best i can do besides watercooling, is just getting a REALLY powerful fan for the bottom of the case blowing air in and the back of the case blowing out.

So, on bottom, i got room for a 120mm fan and on back i got room for an 80mm fan. Should I go for the Loudest / most Powerful fans i can find and then just install 'em in both spots??

[KoG]^weaZel · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject:

match the air flow for both fans (intake/exhaust) and you should be fine. And even tho your outter case is plasic it is still possible to install a fan. It just takes some handyman work but this course is not for everyone.
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FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:

if you got a bestbuy or circuit city in your area buy one there they ar jsut fine ive hade 1 for half a year untill i bought a new case.

[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

You definitely need to install a blowhole of get a new case altogether with a blowhole incorporated already.
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

By the way, i moved my whole tower to a different/better location that is more in the open and my idle CPU temp is 46deg. Celsius and it says the case temp is 33deg. Celsius. So that's about -5degress better. And i'm sure after installing the 120mm intake fan, that will help keep it a LOT cooler, right??

[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

You mean you don't have the 120mm and the rear 80mm installed yet?
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

The rear 80mm stock fan is already in there, but there is no 120mm intake fan yet.

So, currently, all I have running is the one 80mm back exhaust fan.

I'm gonna order a better and louder 80mm exhaust back fan and a 120mm intake fan tomorrow and install that ASAP. I was just asking if those fans were any good and also if the PCI slot fans were worth getting to help cool it as well.

[KoG]^weaZel · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:14 am Post subject:

Those Thermaltake fans should do nicely. And the location is important too as you have just learned. Because if the air that is being pulled into your case is warm its not going to cool your pc.

So my advice for right now is get the two fans installed and see where than leaves you. You may not need the PCI slot fan.
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FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:02 pm Post subject:

you should buy a Vantec Tornado

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-612&depa=1

$9.99 at newegg.com

http://tweaknews.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=617935/search=Vantec%20Tornado heres the pricegrabber link

[TN] Nathan · ALMIGHTY PWNER! Joined: 14 Feb 2002 Posts: 7406

Yea, the intake will definitely help.

Get one that pumps about 40cfm and you will be perfect.
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

The Vantec looks a bit too loud.

The Thermaltake II Smart Fan 80mm for the back pumps 74 CFM at maximum speed and the intake 120mm fan on teh bottom pumps about 77 CFM into the computer.

So i think i'll go for those fans and just switch 'em on highest settings. you guys think that would be good?

[KoG]^weaZel · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject:

PerMod,
Yes sir if you use those fans you should cool nicely. You could even look into fans a little quieter that flow about 48-55 cfm. But what you list will perform very well.
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

Thanks guys, can't wait to get 'em installed and then see my new temps!! You guys helped out a lot.

Now if only Far Cry would run at 1024x768 on all "very high" settings...currently it can only do that at 800x600

and that's with my AMD 64 3200+ cpu w/ ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128mb and 512mb DDR400 PC3200 RAM

[KoG]^weaZel · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject:

well it is a new game with alot of eye candy!
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PerfectModifications · TweakNOOB Joined: 06 Sep 2003 Posts: 31

True...
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Lowvez · TweakNOOB Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 161

Hey guy...i have 2 Vantec Tornado's in my case and also a thermaltake 74CFM fan...these babies PUUUUUUUUSH some air! Case temp full load ~33 Celcius and CPU Full load ~36...i like it!!! That is with water cooling also, with just 1 80MM Rad that came with the swiftech kit and the thermaltake 74CFM Fan on it...and the 2500+ barton overclocked to 3200+

Just get a tornado and put it in the back sot, you'd be surprised at just how much it will lower your temps. My cpu and board temps just before his mod were about 50 full load CPU and about 45 mainboard full load...that is also with my Barton 2500+ Overclocked to 3200+...