General Cooling Questions

[UnFoRgIvEn876]

I'm getting ready to overclock my CPU and my Graphics Card (ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB). I live in So Cal and i know for a fact its going to be scorching this summer. I have a few questions though about cooling before I start with my overclocking process. First, I'm pretty sure I have good air flow, but I want to know if it is really needed to get a better heatsink/fan than the stock Intel P4 one. The reason I am asking is, many times I see someone with an overclock at 3.4 GHz+ and they are using stock cooling, and many times I see them with heatsink/fan, so I just want to know if it is really needed to do this. My next questoin is, for overclocking my graphics card, would I need perhaps a better cooling system such as this.... http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-186-110&depa=1
If I do get a new heatsink/fan and one of these arctic things for cooling my graphics card I will be using the Arctic Silver 5 compound so that should help to. Thanks.
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Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

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[Troy]

Its not exactly required to get a new heatsink and fan for the processor but
you would most likely get a higher o/c with a good copper heatsink.

As far as the card that heatsink seems like it would do the job.
Might wanna add some ramsinks to the back of the memory.


Troy
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[[TN] Nathan]

^^^^^What he said.
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[ToggleHead]

wait are you OCing what you CURRENTLY have???

or did you not update your sig yet?......lol

just a heads up......MAKE sure sure you have good airflow......match intakes with exhausts, and a blow hole would help get rid of those hot air pockets....=]
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[[KoG]^weaZel]

For longevity it is best to have the best cooling possible. So yes going with a good thermalright HSF is a good idea. And yes you can OC with the stock HSF but it is not ideal to do this.

Yes hot air in your pockets is bad.
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[UnFoRgIvEn876]

well...i have finally decided to not be stingy with my cooling and get a new HSF, the VGA Silencer graphics card cooler, and some new artic silver 5 compound. If anybody has some suggestions for a good but relatively cheap (not over 35 bucks please) hsf for the Socket 478 P4 that can support a good OC (something like 3.3-3.4 or so) please let me know. If anybody has had an overly good experience with a special hsf let me know of that too. Thanks
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CASE ASPIRE ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

[UnFoRgIvEn876]

no suggestions?
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CASE ASPIRE ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

[[TN] Nathan]

the HSF is not rated for overclocking.

As we have said time and time again, go with a thermalright copper heatsink.

Don't worry about the VGA silencer, put the money into a good cooler.
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[UnFoRgIvEn876]

well i understand to get the best overclock with no artifacts on your radeon 9800 you need some type of third party cooling, and i also understand that the VGA silencer is a huge helper. Anyways for the HSF, i can't really shell out like more than 30 bucks for it and the cheapest thermalright heatsink (without the fan) that is copper is 40 bucks on newegg
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CASE ASPIRE ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

[FreeTheRock [banned]]

i ahve Arctic Silver 3 on my CPU and i was wondering if puting Arctic Silver 5 would make any difference?

[UnFoRgIvEn876]

i doubt it will make much a difference, if anything probably 1 degree lower (celcius). I have a questin though, now that I think of it, i don't even know if i need a hsf or any new cooling for that matter, because I am guessing my current air flow and stock hsf is doing a good job, or i think so cuz my temps aren't bad. At idle i am receiving like 32ish for CPU and 24ish on motherboard, at full load on Prime95 for like 6 hours i'm at 50ish CPU and 27ish on my motherboard. From what I understand that is not unsafe considering I am overclocked at 3.2 right now with fairly tight timings,and my raddy is overclocked as well.
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CASE ASPIRE ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

[UnFoRgIvEn876]

aaaah..the whole non-edit thing is starting to get to me lol. Anyways, i just checked with AsusProbe in the fan section and it says my CPU fan is working at 3040. I thought maybe that I am supposed to run it at higher speeds which is why it is changing like 20 degress C when i go from idle to full load. Most of the time i see the idle and full load temps 8-10 degrees C between each other.
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CASE ASPIRE ATXA2XPW-BL/420
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
ATI RADEON 9800 128MB Pro@ 420 Core/ 370 Memory
P4 2.6C 800 MHZ FSB @ 3.268 GHz (FSB 250)2X512 DDR Corsair PC3200 XMS C2 @ 2-3-3-6
80GB Maxtor 7200 RPM Hard-Drive

[FreeTheRock [banned]]

the highest the northwood P4 can go before being fried is about 80 degrees celcius i belive.