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[knightwarrior64]

does anyone here know how to tweak a geforce fx 5200? i used 3dmark2001 and i got score of 4992 really bad!!, even a geforce 3 beats it. I have a p4 3.06 gig 512 ddr. what could be wrong? can i tweak it?

[Google]

[-verTo-]

wait wait wait... 4992.. u sure ure not on 3dmark03?

if its 3dmark01, something is wrong w/ ure card/setup. Get the latest drivers for your motherboard AGP/SIS whatever as well as latest drivers for your graphics card.

what motherboard are u using?
what manufacturer is ure gfx card?
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[meobius]

no that seems about right from what i remember, was able to get 6000 using a p4 2.4@3.3 with an FX5200 overclocked. they aren't all that good... meant for cheap basic use... not hardcore gamers

[[TN] Nathan]

Sounds like you might want to go into your bios and set your AGP bus to 4-8x AGP
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[knightwarrior64]

ok i went into bios and i changed amprature size, it was @ 64 mb and i chagedit to 128 because its what my fx 5200 has. What is apature size? Well what ever it is its now 128 i am gonna run test now and see.

[-verTo-]

i believe that aperture size is the extra virtual memory given to the graphics card.
So, supposedly, the more the better, i did have success with my Ti4200 from going 64mb to 128mb.


back to the score of ure fx 5200.. wow, my ti4200 gets 12000 marks in 3dmark01

PNY geforce4 ti4200 verTo
P4 2.4ghz / MSI 648MAX mobo
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Stock Video Card w/ OC proc:
3dmark03 - 5950
3dmark01 - 19593

[knightwarrior64]

i got the same score, is ti 4200 better than fx 5200? sihg 5200 must be a really bad card.

[knightwarrior64]

the ampature size thing in bios i think went up to like more than 512 should i raise it to the max? I cant beleive that i got 4992 when someone with a geforce 3 got 5500 and someone with a geforce 2 mx got like 4600, theres gotta be something wrong. I have the latest driver and when i went to bios i could not find anything about 4x or 8x, i know my board has 1 8x agp. what could be the problem?

[knightwarrior64]

heres a compare of ti 4200 and fx 5200
fx 5200
http://shop.pcconnection.com/web/Shopping/Product.htm?catalog%5Fname=PCCGeneral&category%5Fname=&product%5Fid=442696&variant%5Fid=&SearchLogID=%7B55E25037%2D167E%2D4888%2D9141%2DF82A2BD7B5AC%7D

Ti 4200
http://shop.pcconnection.com/web/Shopping/Product.htm?NRMODE=Published&NRORIGINALURL=%2fweb%2fshopping%2fproduct%2ehtm%3fproduct_id%3d416293%26SourceID%3dk15505&SourceID=k15505&product_id=416293&NRNODEGUID=%7bC03E868D-1CEF-4F98-8F00-45BF12FCEA4E%7d&NRQUERYTERMINATOR=1&cookie%5Ftest=1


the fx 5200 is beta

[knightwarrior64]

anyone know?

[[TN] Nathan]

How fast is your computer?

The AGP Aperature size should be set to 128 megs.

You could have a slow budget model of the FX5200.

Other than that, you will have to go into the display settings and tweak your DirectX performance settings.
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[knightwarrior64]

i computer is fast its got 512 ddr, 160 gig hard drv, 3 ghz with 800 bus, HT tech, and what do u mean by slow budget version? and where do i go for display settings to tweak directx?

[[TN] Nathan]

What motherboard?

Do you have one or two sticks of memory?

Do you have your memory in dual channel configuration?
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[knightwarrior64]

i am beggining to hate the fx 5200 i am thinking of getting 5900 if this does not get fixed. It even lags when i play halo @ 1024/768

[knightwarrior64]

yes 1 512 stick ddr, my board is.. intel D865GBF 865g chipset springdale.


link to my motherboard http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/bf/index.htm?iid=ipp_browse+motherbd_d865gbf&

[[TN] Nathan]

There is the problem, you are not running in Dual channel configuration.

Dual channel doubles the memory bandwidth and will greatly increse your videocard benchmarking.

You will need to buy a dual channel memory kit which will consist of 2-256meg (512megs)sticks of memory which you place in the first and third memory slot.

You cannot get dual channel configuration with a single stick of ram.
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[knightwarrior64]

really? so if i had 2 256 sticks how much faster woud it be? i think i will get an other 512 ddr stick, my ram is 3200 400mhz.
will this improve my preformance in 3dmark2001?

[[TN] Nathan]

you will essentially double your memory bandwidth and your 3dmark scores should jump by 25-50%.

Right now, your videocard isn't being fed enough information to effectively pump out as much frames per second as it intends to.

By another 512meg stick, pop it into the 3rd ram slot, and you should see a drastic difference.

Try to get the EXACT memory as the stick you already have.
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[knightwarrior64]

ya , ill get another 512, but why exactly the same? ill get a 3200 400 mhz(same). I should have known this earlyer. SO it will be way faster huh?
ok thanks for all the info

[[TN] Nathan]

you have to get identical sticks because they have to match and perform exactly like each other seeing they are working together at the same time.

Any differences and they will be potentially unstable.
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[knightwarrior64]

ok thnx, dang dude ur smart

[knightwarrior64]

one last question are u sure this will slove the problem? If not how sure are u?

[-verTo-]

Nathan, no need to answer this, ill get it for u.

knight, nate knows what hes talking about. Dual channel DOES double the bandwith of your memory, you will definately see a difference.

Only thing i'd recommend, is a graphics card change. It may be a sort of a bottleneck for you if you are going to be wanting to play top of the line games such as HL2, doom3, HALO.
I would recommend anything nathan says.. maybe a ATI Radeon 9600 pro or 9700 pro, they can perform.
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Vcore:1.60 Vdimm:2.7
OCZ PC4200 Performance Series(2x256) 1:1
Maxtor 80gb SATA
Radeon 9800 Pro

Stock Video Card w/ OC proc:
3dmark03 - 5950
3dmark01 - 19593

[[TN]Tristan]

verTO is right; the FX 5200 is a budget card and is meant to the latest games at the lowest detail levels. It is the MX version of the FX series.

If you are going to listen to verTO and upgrade your card, then like he said, a Radeon 9600, 9700 or 9800 Pro card will do a fine job. There is really no point in going with nVidia because their cards have been proven to be slower than their ATI counter-parts.
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[[TN] Nathan]

Very true, but I think he should save his money, get another stick of ram, and he will be happy with the performance increase with his videocard.

I was using a FX5200 ultra and I was playing BF1942 and it performed very well.

Update your ram and I think you will be very happy with the performance increase and you won't have to update your videocard.
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