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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My BIOS has an SATA enabled/disabled setting....

PATA (no SATA, 4 allowed drives)
SATA (no PATA, 2 allowed drives)
Combined (PATA and SATA, 4 total allowed drives)
Combined Enhanced (PATA and SATA, 6 total allowed drives)

Are you sure you're using the proper SATA drivers, and copied them properly from the CD?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok the drives hooked up and on the first SATA port. I downloaded the Raid drivers off of DFi's site and threw them on a floppy. I used Maxtor's software to make sure that the drive is fine and then also used the Maxtor software to get it ready for an OS. Went through all of that and the diagnostic tool that Maxtor provides says that the drive is ready to go. I then start going through the Windows setup. It asks for the Raid drivers so I put in the floppy and they appear to install fine now (I think it was just a bad floppy earlier) but after loading everything Windows needs for the setup, it just says that it can't recognize the drive and I have to restart.

So what's going on? I'll triple check the Mobo manual incase I have a BIOS setting off, but the drive shows up under the Maxtor diagnostic tool, so wouldn't that mean that it should be good to go?

This post should make more sense, I was just getting annoyed earlier. I'll mess around with it some more today and see what you guys say.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xal wrote:
Try setting the SATA port to legacy in bios.


Hmm I'm not sure if I saw that as an option before, I'll go check.

Yeah I didn't see a Legacy option anywhere. Only 2 options that I could find would be for SATA, SATA RAID or Disabled which is talking about the Control which I have set on SATA. Then I found either SATA or SCSI boot, and that's on SATA as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick question. Should my first boot device still be HDD-0?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about this....But...that's a slightly older board.

You have a single SATA drive....right?

If so, then turn that RAID off. Set as SATA on. Then your new SATA drive will go into your SATA #1 spot. Then your put your cdrom/DVD on the secondary IDE bus. Now boot into BIOS and see if your sata drive shows up as "0" or the first drive. If so windows shouldn't be asking for the Raid cause you shut it off.
If you are indeed using two drives in RAID then disregard this.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2old2care wrote:
I'm not sure about this....But...that's a slightly older board.

You have a single SATA drive....right?

If so, then turn that RAID off. Set as SATA on. Then your new SATA drive will go into your SATA #1 spot. Then your put your cdrom/DVD on the secondary IDE bus. Now boot into BIOS and see if your sata drive shows up as "0" or the first drive. If so windows shouldn't be asking for the Raid cause you shut it off.


Yup all that is already done. Cd/DVD was always on the Secondary IDE. And yeah it's only one drive.

At least I'm narrowing it down. It's either a bad drive, bad on-board SATA, or Windows is screwy.

Oh yeah, for SATA drives do you always have to use the software that comes with them to get them ready for an OS?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not have to use the software that comes with them. For the most part they show up in bios just like a pata drive and windows or a third party can partition and activate them.
Have you unhooked all drives except the sata and played with the bios settings? Cause like I said it should show up in your bios just like any other drive. And make sure you got that Raid controller off if you're running a single.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. Well I completely disabled the Raid controller now. But where would the drive show up in Bios? Only thing I've noticed are the 2 IDE channels and the Floppy drive. I haven't noticed anything listing SATA channels.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typically it lands on the "standard cmos setup" page with all the drives. Open each of the drives and make sure they are automatic. It will prolly look just like any ide drive. Unfortunately, I do not know that board. I think it has a typical award bios though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Older mobos only allowed the SATA drives as storage drives, and you needed RAID drivers installed to use them. They were not bootable drives, which annoyed people to no end.

Toggle ran into the same thing earlier, I think he had to set his mobo in a wierd way...........maybe PM him.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks for the replies. I'll PM him and see what he says. I'll probably just take the drive back tomorrow and look for something else.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure you have the SATA controller drivers not the raid drivers? If you try to use the raid drivers it will do what you described (kick you back to asking for drivers). Make sure you have the SATA not Raid drivers..
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be the controller drivers. It stopped looping on me, I think it was a bad floppy earlier.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/driver_download_us.jsp?PRODUCT_ID=2320&CATEGORY_TYPE=MB&STATUS_FLAG=A&SITE=NA

There's a link to the driver list for my mobo. I actually might have been using the RAID drivers, but that's the only thing that mentions SATA. Should I use one of the system drivers or what?

This might be easier if I had all my manuals and discs that came with my mobo here
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While installing windows you will have to install the SATA drivers.
This is done in the beginning of the setup.
You will see a line saying "Press F6 if you have any 3rd party Raid/Sata drivers"
Press F6, a window should open telling you to insert the floppy with the drivers (Floppy disk should have come with the HDD). You will bee shown a list of all the drivers on the floppy select the one that matches your MB chipset.

You should now be able to finish the windows setup and find the SATA HD.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zerebro wrote:
While installing windows you will have to install the SATA drivers.
This is done in the beginning of the setup.
You will see a line saying "Press F6 if you have any 3rd party Raid/Sata drivers"
Press F6, a window should open telling you to insert the floppy with the drivers (Floppy disk should have come with the HDD). You will bee shown a list of all the drivers on the floppy select the one that matches your MB chipset.

You should now be able to finish the windows setup and find the SATA HD.

Good Luck


Yes, I realize that and I've done it multiple times. That's not the problem. I just couldn't get Windows to recognize the drive.

I just took the drive back and reformatted my old one. It will eventually die on me again soon, but might last till the end of the semester at least.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You probably still need to load drivers after you load Windows, it doesn't appear that you have a native SATA port (yours is bridged through the regular IDE channel). On older, first-gen SATA boards, you needed to do this:

Install the drivers during Windows setup, which you already did.
Load Windows on a PATA drive.
Install the drivers for the SATA ports using your mobo's setup CD.

Once that's done, you *should* be able to clone the PATA drive to the SATA drive, and remove the PATA drive. Windows should recognize the SATA drive as the primary boot partition, then. I'm not entirely certain if it will work for you, alot of older boards didn't support booting from the SATA ports.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a strange little update.

I reformatted the drive that messed up on me about 3 months ago and it's still going strong. No odd problems that I had be recognizing before. Do you guys think it was some really strange software issue? I still don't trust it and haven't fully restored it back because I figure it will just die soon, but so far so good.

Oh well I've found out that HDD's can be fickle at times Razz
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