IDE mobo but SATA hard drive

Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: IDE mobo but SATA hard drive

i have a KT400 MOBO for AMD 2400 on which i am running a 120gb ide phase HD. but i want to extra harddrive.. thinking of buyin a new one... may be 300gb but this time SATA drive instead since i am also thinking to make a new computer in next 6 months. meanwhile i dont want to buy another IDE Hard drive.( since it is old and slow tech). MY question is is there is a way to use IDE supported mobo to run a SATA hard drive which is 250 GB - and up. i have heard of SATA to IDE converter but dont know if they are going to work. so if possible plz word of support and help a guy out. if any one had any exprierence with it please let me know... i would really appreciate that.
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject:

actually, the IDE drives are not that much slower, you may not even notice the difference. The RPMs are mostly the same except for the raptors, 10,000. The only difference is the SATA is 150 mb\s and IDE is 133 mb\s I think... not sure. There are certain adapters you can use to convert IDE to SATA, I have not used them, but using a SATA PCI card would be a better solution. You could put it in your new computer and then get a 2nd hdd and run them in a RAID array and have more ports for upgrades.
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fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

There are converters to use a PATA drive on an SATA mobo, not entirely sure about the other way around.

Anyway, you won't notice any difference in speed between a current PATA drive and a new SATA. You're not even touching the 133mb/s limits of PATA with a single drive, and barely touching it with two Raptors in RAID0. The fastest regular SATA drive available (non-Raptor) only hits 55-58mb/s in a single drive.

Getting a PCI card, rather than a converter, is a good idea. However, be aware that you'll be using the PCI bus then for your new drive..........which is older and slower tech than current PATA standards.

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Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject:

cool thing u mentioned about the PCI card. can u tell me more about it .. i mean how it can be use an raid as u said before...
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1GB DDR 3200 Corsair RAM
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Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject:

so u guyz are sayin that i should buy a IDE drive ... wht will happen when i am making a new computer and then the new mobo has sata capability only and i am stuck with IDE. yea i do know that there is not much speed difference but hey one the reason i am trying to get is because of new MOBO requirements.
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SOYO KT400 ULTRA DRAGON
AMD 2400+ (2.0 GHZ)
WESTERN DIGITAL 120 GB JB
1GB DDR 3200 Corsair RAM
ATI AIW 128MB 9600 XT VIDEO CARD
CREATIVE AUDIGY 2 ZS
KLIPSCH PRO MEDIA 5.1
DELL 2405 24"

fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

You're looking at a PCI controller card. Plugs into a PCI slot, and typically has 4 SATA ports, to allow you to run a RAID array.

Don't worry about mobo compatability, PATA connectors will be on mobos for quite some time.........since the possibility of anybody releasing an SATA optical drive is pretty slim.
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zhensem · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:

Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject:

sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject:

No, I dont believe you can use your 120 and 300 in raid. They have to be the same exact drive for it to work. The raid mirrors the data on both drives making READING faster. If your comfused with anything else, post your specific questions
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fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

Well, I eat my shorts on the optical drives...............

No, you can't use two different size drives for RAID0, only for RAID1 (mirroring......which you don't want to do). And no, you can't use one SATA and one PATA in any kind of RAID setup, they have to be on the same interface.
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Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject:

so, if u guyz are in my position wht would u do? buy a SATA 300GB drive or 300 IDE drive. and how would u come about doing it. i mean installing it with sata to IDE controller? or some ... some time i think i should just buy a IDE less work.. but still i am waiting for ur suggestions.
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WESTERN DIGITAL 120 GB JB
1GB DDR 3200 Corsair RAM
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fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

I suppose it would go either way.

If it were me, and I were planning on upgrading......oh wait, I just did that.

What I would suggest is to hold off buying a new drive, since you plan on rebuilding relatively soon. Then buy a drive, move your 120gb to a storage drive, and get a killer SATA boot drive.
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Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject:

thanx i think i am going to do that. AS U SAID. by the way wht is ur New machine , that u speak of? lolz can i see ur rigs
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AMD 2400+ (2.0 GHZ)
WESTERN DIGITAL 120 GB JB
1GB DDR 3200 Corsair RAM
ATI AIW 128MB 9600 XT VIDEO CARD
CREATIVE AUDIGY 2 ZS
KLIPSCH PRO MEDIA 5.1
DELL 2405 24"

fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

You'd have to have bigger boobies to see my rig, bro.

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Maxsaint · Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject:

ahh come on ... dont do tht ... i was more like thinking that u be my mantor
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SOYO KT400 ULTRA DRAGON
AMD 2400+ (2.0 GHZ)
WESTERN DIGITAL 120 GB JB
1GB DDR 3200 Corsair RAM
ATI AIW 128MB 9600 XT VIDEO CARD
CREATIVE AUDIGY 2 ZS
KLIPSCH PRO MEDIA 5.1
DELL 2405 24"