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CREATIVE ZEN VISION 30GB PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYER REVIEW
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:26 am    Post subject: CREATIVE ZEN VISION 30GB PORTABLE MEDIA PLAYER REVIEW Reply with quote

Please feel free to leave your questions here.

Review can be found here:

http://www.tweaknews.net/reviews/zen/

Pricing on this product can be found here:

http://tweaknews.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php?page_id=1907&form_keyword=creative+zen+vision&rd=1

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice review. Good job, Zhenya! Welcome aboard.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one Mr.Z

You just had to show off your 53" Pioneer TV DIDNT YOU! DIDNT YOU!!!

Looks a great product, i wonder how something like that compares to a PSP for example...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh wrote:
You just had to show off your 53" Pioneer TV DIDNT YOU! DIDNT YOU!!!



rofl, no kidding you rich bish
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoshida wrote:
Josh wrote:
You just had to show off your 53" Pioneer TV DIDNT YOU! DIDNT YOU!!!



rofl, no kidding you rich bish


But how will the image look on my 13" Admiral TV? You know how amazing the picture is on that screen..........
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo1340 wrote:
Very nice review. Good job, Zhenya! Welcome aboard.


Thanks! I'm happy to be aboard!

Josh wrote:
You just had to show off your 53" Pioneer TV DIDNT YOU! DIDNT YOU!!!


Yep, couldn't resist!!!! Very Happy


Thanks a lot everyone! It was a pleasure doing this review for TN (and also the MS Fingerprint reader review (dunno if u guys cough that one)! More to come!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you suck.

I want your TV and the ZEN
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ROFLMAO!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the US but in the European UK store nearly a month after it's release Creative just bumped the price up from £339.99 to £370!!!! They also keep going out of stock. All I can say is thank God I didn't wait. Lol! It seems that demand surpassed their expectations and they've decided to cash in by bumping the price! Very Happy

They're having trouble keeping stock up in the European store so I doubt retail and other online stores will be stocking this thing in large quantities anytime soon.

Anyways, I'm one smug shopper. I remember reading somewhere people saying they'll wait until the thing comes out of pre-ordering when the price will drop. Lol it appears it's done the exact opposite. Early adopters just saved £30. Not a bad saving for being an early adopter. Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sally wrote:
you suck.

I want your TV and the ZEN


Hell with that, I want his income. And his girlfriend. Who needs the dang TV?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOWOWOW!!!! Back off there a sec. I ASURE you, you don't want my income! LOL! I don't work, still at Uni. I think you were supposed to say, you want my parent's income.

My g/f, you can have her on weekdays as long as I can have her for those long boring weekends when there's nothing interesting on TV. On weekdays I don't want to miss my Becker, Frasier, Friends, Simpons, S. Park, etc, can't be dealing with nagging women while I watch those.

Just kidding....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about you just ditch the girlfriend and date me?







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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMAO!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Zen Vision Compatibility Reply with quote

After such a fantastic review I thought this the best place to ask an important question: Have you tried a .ratdvd file on the Zen Vision? Radvd gets great compression, down to about 1.xgb meaning i can make the relatively small 30gb hdd go a lot further. Would be very curious to know if anyone has tried to run a ratdvd on the ZV
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't tried ratDVD, but after doing a bit of research it appears that this is a proprietary file format that requires it's own codec therefore the Zen Vision would not be able to play these files back.

You'd have to stick to one of the supported formats.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can this thing be used as an e-book?
This would be perfect if it could read text files or pdf's. Any chance it can or be modded to do this?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Question on Conversion... Reply with quote

First off, very good review...I've read more than a dozen reviews on this sucker (very interested and excited to buy one...only problem...not available in the US yet) and this one was the best/info packed review. The reason I've read so many is to find out what the actual compatability of the Zen Vision is. The site says that it has compatability for a bunch of codecs, etc... but does that mean that the actual PLAYER has that compatability...in other words, can I slap an AVI with divx codecs 4,5 or MP4's, WMV's, and all the rest without doing a special encoding of the files or do I have to use the software to convert it to a special file that the Zen Vision only accepts. Thanks for any answers and hope the question makes sense!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sjjn wrote:
Can this thing be used as an e-book?
This would be perfect if it could read text files or pdf's. Any chance it can or be modded to do this?


Unfortunately it can't read these out of the box but the ability to read text files has been put in as a feature request on Creative's Forums so hopefully with a bit of luck Creative may add this functionality in a future firmware release.

Due to the fact that the operating system is proprietary and there is no information available you couldn't really mod or modify the firmware.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Question on Conversion... Reply with quote

Pitrie17 wrote:
First off, very good review...I've read more than a dozen reviews on this sucker (very interested and excited to buy one...only problem...not available in the US yet) and this one was the best/info packed review. The reason I've read so many is to find out what the actual compatability of the Zen Vision is. The site says that it has compatability for a bunch of codecs, etc... but does that mean that the actual PLAYER has that compatability...in other words, can I slap an AVI with divx codecs 4,5 or MP4's, WMV's, and all the rest without doing a special encoding of the files or do I have to use the software to convert it to a special file that the Zen Vision only accepts. Thanks for any answers and hope the question makes sense!


Thank you for your compliments.

Zen Vision's codec support means that if you have a file on your computer that is encoded in say, DivX 5, you can just slap this file onto the Zen Vision and it will be able to read it without doing any prior conversions. Same applies to WMV, DivX 4, 5 and 6 (as far as I'm aware), Xvid, MJPEG, MPEG1/2/4.

Having said this, if you have a DivX 5 that is of a resolution higher than the Zen Vision can support it will not play it meaning that you'd have to re-encode the DivX 5 and downgrade the resoution.

I hope that answers your question. If you have anymore questions or I haven't explained myself then don't hesitate to ask.

One final thing, the Zen Vision is available in the US if you order via Creative's Online store or ring them up. It isn't available in retails stores yet however I did read some information that it's available in the Virgin Megastore on Times Square going for, if my memory serves me right, $430, which is a lot more expensive.

All in all, it's a very good product and is certainly worth getting, IMHO. I'm enjoying it on a daily basis and I'm glad I bought this particular one over the competition. Some may have bigger hard disk sizes at the cost of a good LCD screen. Get one and you'll love it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SWEET!!! That's exactly what I wanted to know. I work in the film and broadcasting business so encoding, re-encoding, etc... is what I do a lot of the time, and in the past a lot of the portable media players would make you convert it into their file type instead of just being able to slap it on there (given that it fits the parameters) and have it work. All in all, Zen Vision is the way to go...none of this video iPod crap! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pitrie17 wrote:
All in all, Zen Vision is the way to go...none of this video iPod crap! Thanks!



Damn right you are!!!!! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another informative and well written review Applause

Well done Applause
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Xal!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance you will battle the Zen Vision vs Archos AV500?

I am very interested in bouth of them. The Archos is actually pulling me more as it is using the same screen the Sony PSP is useing.

Archos player : http://www.archos.com/products/av_500/index.html

Or if not compairing them atleast review it?

PLEASE!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the 2x post could not find the edit...

A question on the Zen Vision: How is the subtitle option for video playback?
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