networked... but not

Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

The unknown node type is said to work ok. So for know we can leave it as is, since the 3rd computer is that same way.

It is strange that none of the computers can ping the others by name. The XP Home pc may be blocking the ping requests so I would worry about that. None of the computers are acting as the Master Browser.

Anything added to the registry can be removed.

Lets check to make sure the proper services are running.

Right click on My Computer and select manage.
Expand Services and Applications so you can see Services.
Click on Services.
In the right hand pain fook for Computer Browser and TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper and verify that they both have a status of running and that both have a startup type of automatic.

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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

Also check the Workstation service is started and automatic

sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:14 am Post subject:

all started and automatic
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject:

I was able to get a ping on computer B today, but I still cannot browse any computers. B + C can no longer browse each other.
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

Starting to sound like none of your computers are acting as the Master Browser, this is the computer that keeps the names and ips of all the computers.

Do you have any errors in the event viewer? Event viewer is in the Computer Management console window opened when you right click on my computer and select manage.

sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:02 pm Post subject:

I only have log in applications and system.... what specifically am I looking for?
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

You want to look for any errors in general.

When you said " I tried resetting the data network setup" what exactly did you do?

sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject:

I went throught the home netwrok setup wizard a few times on each computer. I was able to get B + C to browse each other again. I had to use the add a network place to make it perminate in network places. I tried this on Computer A. I entered the network path and folder and then it took some time but it would not access it. The other computers could not use this method either.
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

Since you are having problems with name resolution have you tried to add a network place using a computers ip address instead of the computers name?

\\192.168.0.2\SharedDocs

instead of

\\computername\SharedDocs

fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

Just something to try.........

On machine A, go to My Computer ---->Tools----------->Folder Options, click the View tab, and uncheck Simple File Sharing.
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fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

I also found this........

http://www.duxcw.com/yabbse/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=12487

This might do the trick.
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:46 pm Post subject:

fitz, I tried using the IP adress, it stuttered for a long time then came up as an invalid location blah blah blah. I am looking at the link posted right now
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:52 pm Post subject:

That link will not work because

fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

eh, it was a thought.

I was digging into it myself............seems to be an issue with being able to access a domain. XP Pro can, XP Home can't.
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

Give this article a read. Might help out.

http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article64-page1.php

I am curious as to what the command

net view

will give you. Run this from the command prompt.

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

kind of a simple one...but is DHCP enabled in your router? we never actually asked that...
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:51 am Post subject:

ok... problem found. When I try to run nbtstat -n, I get NetBT is not bound to any devices. The other computers listed this information easily.
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

problem found...but is it fixed?

if so...tell us and all those googlers how you did it....=D
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject:

I found the problem... but I haven't fixed it. I think it has to do wth the netbios, but, like I said before, I am a network noob. Any suggestions to fix this would be nice...
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

NetBT is basically NetBIOS over TCP/IP. Verify that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled. Might try disabling it, restarting, enable it, restart.

The second method to try is 1)Uncheck "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks" for your Local Area Connection (I am assuming you only have one nic and one connection listed in Network Connections). 2)Press the Ok button. 3)Restart the computer. 4)Check "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks:. 5)Press the Ok button. 6)Restart the computer. 7)Retest.

If the problem still persists check the event viewer (usually system but check application too) for any errors about NetBT or any network related errors.

Problems like this can also be solved by deleting the Connection from Network Connections and uninstalling the Network Adapter in the Device manager. Only perform this step if you are sure you have the network adaptors drivers if XP doesn't have them.

sickofsoyo · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:26 pm Post subject:

I tried that but nohing. I dont have the network adapter drivers, so I could not do that
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sickofsoyo · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject:

ok... the only events that were current were 8003 MRxSmb which has to do with the master browser... my dads computer stopping my computer or wanting an election. Then there is 4226 Tcpip which has to do with the TCP\IPTCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts.
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Fitz Goran · TweakNOOB Joined: 07 Sep 2004 Posts: 53

EventID 8003 can be solved by disabling and enabling the network adaptor, this should rebuild the connection settings.

EventID 4226 is caused by too many incomplete TCP connection attempts. P2P software can cause this as well as a virus or spyware (not saying you have any of these, just stating this error can be caused by this type of program).

I am going to setup a test network to verify something interesting I just read.

See if the disable/enable does any magic.

sickofsoyo · Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:

YYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

It works again. I tried removing and redetecting, then I went to advanced settings and disabled LMHOSTS and enabled the Netbios over TCp\IP and I did the network wizard and It worked.

Thanks for all your help guys. I would still be lost if you didn't help me.
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