Windows ME ICS

Gimel · TweakNOOB Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 32

Trying to connect 2 computers to the net with ICS.
The first is a celeron 900 with winME that is connected via cable modem to the net, the other is a PIII 500 with winXP.

I can get the network to run (useing a cross-linked cable) but there's no internet access for the second comp.
It converts site names into IP addresses, but it doesn't recieve any data from them. (ping time out)

Firewalls are tured off on both computers.
The internet connection is done with VPN.
IP is set to auto (on comp No.2).

Any thoughts?
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gmoney · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:

have you connected the 2 computers with a crossover cable? ...
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

forgive me.... iCS?

crossLINKED cable?

does it show the icon for connected? is it transferring packets?
do you have tcp/ip installed?
is there a router or are you going through one pc to the other?
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Gimel · TweakNOOB Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 32

ICS - Internet connection sharing.
Connecting one PC to the other (no router).
TCP/IP installed.

crosslinked - crossover (sorry, I don't write in english very often)
The Icon for "connected" shows up, seems to be working fine.
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gmoney · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:49 am Post subject:

usu. ics is a piece of garbage and rarely works... and when u get it to werk you can never really remember what you did.. my 2cents would be just buy a cheap router or something.. or take like an entire day and go through the tutorials and troubleshooters.. cuz ics is often problemataic.....

you should be able to just share the internet connecttion to the other machine and it should get the connection... i mean its supposed to be as simple as that but its not Razz

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fussnfeathers · Lord of the Tweak Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 2763

ICS rarely (if ever) works with a combination of OS's. WinME is horrible, at best, anyway, and couldn't even connect securely wiht Windows 98, let alone with XP.

I agree, either get an inexpensive router, or a second copy of XP. With XP to XP machines, ICS works just fine (I've been doing it for two years now, on four different machines), but it never worked reliably with different Windows versions. In either case, you're looking at similar costs.
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

^^^^ agreed...mixing OS's in this case can be a pain. Actually, mixing OS's on ANY network is more of a pain than matching ones....lol

and dont worry about the lingo, i just wanted to be sure we were on the same page...=D

my suggestion....like everyone else, cheap router
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2old2care · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:22 am Post subject:

Check with M$, but you can only 1/2 network ME and XP...XP's securities won't allow it.

You can use ICS with ME and 98 or with 2000 and XP and 2003 but not ME/98 and 2000/XP.
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Gimel · TweakNOOB Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 32

What if I'll use the XP computer as the server?
Can it make a difrence? (the comps are not mine...)
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2old2care · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:01 pm Post subject:

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

the ME machine NOT on the net...right after fresh install is prolly already pretty messed up....=P

but like 2Old said..... a router is the way to go here
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Gimel · TweakNOOB Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 32

ok
Can a router work with the crossover cable?
It's pretty long (15m), I don't wanna replace it...
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

no you will need a straight through cable. The router acts as a crossover.
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gmoney · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject:

unless you get a router with an uplink port you will be able to use one crossover cable connecting the router to pc...
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Ham_fisT · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject:

well...umm, that isn't exactly true eithe FnF..

my linksys SX41 router ports are Auto MDI / MDI-X, meaning they sense whether you have plugged in a regular, or crossover cable, you can use either one.
and some routers have a "normal/Uplink" switch, to enable use of a crossover cable
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Gimel · TweakNOOB Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 32

I've got an Edimax 10/100 switch that can be used with crossover cables.
can't a router do the same?
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2old2care · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject:

There are auto-negotiating ports on a lot of modern routers that will work either way, with either kind of cable on all ports.
But... although it might be a nice feature, it would be down in my list of reasons to buy a particular router.

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gmoney · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:48 pm Post subject:

Xal · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 4:55 am Post subject:

Ok, Here is how you do it

1 set up computer with XP to ip 192.168.0.1 and enable connection sharing
2 set up PC 2 with ip 192.168.0.2
subnet 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS1 & 2 whatever you use (go to command "cmd" and type ipconfig /all on your XP machine and get them from there.)

If your xover cable is working this WILL work, I know cuz I did it last week for a client with win 98, win ME, win 2000 and windows XP machines.

Post back if you need more detailed instructions or if you have any questions.
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Xal · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:01 am Post subject:

Oh, you should have the DNSs set up on both machines or none not one or the other, I don't know why but it has always given me problems when I set up on one but not the other. DNSs should be the same on both machines unless your ISP has more than 2 in whic case any combination will be fine.
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gmoney · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject:

naw i dont do that really .. i just used to have to i had a 100ft crossover that connected to the linksys now i dont use linksys router no moe.. use a wireless netgear...
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