New Setup Arrangement Idea

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Hi,
As I have already mentioned in other topics, I will soon be purchasing new Alpine components. Just recently I have decided that there is no need for me to have the JBL sub aswell as the 2 Alpine type R's. Therefore I have an idea to sell the JBL sub and the Sony Xplod Amp, and use that money to buy an Alpine amp to power those new Alpine components. Does anyone agree if this is a good idea- will it be worth it?? If so, why?

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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

i am not familiar enough with lanza or Legacy......but pyle is crap....=D
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JayDubya · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:

None of the above?

Very bad choices for amps IMOHO. Especially legacy and pyle. Lanzar is just . . . ok. worse than jensen though
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

list of worthy amps that i can remember off top of head:
top shelf or just below

kicker
precision power
phoenix gold
mtx
audiobahn
soundstream (not to be confused with soundSTORM)
zapco
....
im sure theres more...but these i swear by, from use
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Xal · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 3:35 am Post subject:

Yeah, I like Pheonix Gold, they have a nice sound to them.
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Sorry for confusing you with the poll peeps- it has nothing to do with the help I actually need, as described at the top of this page.......... Cheerz :)

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

**Please read my idea on Alpine**

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Here is my new list of audio components that I will soon have complete:

Alpine CDA-9830 HU
2x 13cm 120w Pioneer Door speakers

Alpine MRV-301 Amp powering:
2x 6"x9" Alpine S Type speakers
2x 13cm Alpine E Type Coaxials with tweeters

Lanzar Vibe268 amp powering:
2x Alpine R Type 12" subwoofers (one on each channel)

2awg in, 4awg out Distribution block
4 Farad Audiobahn Power Cap

What I am not sure of now is how to wire the Alpine speakers up to that Alpine amp. As there are 4 speakers here does it mean I need to buy a 4 channel amp? Many Thanks

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Also is 4 farad power cap more than required?

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

yeah 4 farad is huge....ONE should be fine....2 if you wanna have the biggest and best....lol

yes i would seriously reccomend a four channel amp
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

2 Farad cap and 4 channel Alpine amp it is then

So Togglehead do you believe I am making a wise decision with this new setup? Will I be happier with it than with the one I first chose- is it worth the time? :)

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

i think you will man....less is more.......=]

we'll be here to help you tune it all too....=]
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

lol Thanks ever so much I am gonna go ahead with the new equipment and regularly post updates on it with pics etc. and details on how much I like it, so keep ur eyes peeld!!!

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Hi again,
I am currently looking at a new amp for my two Alpine R's. Which would you prefer- 1000w Alpine Amp or 2000w Lanzar Amp? Cheerz :)

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

The specific amp I am looking at is the ALPINE MRV-F450. It has 4 channels for speakers and 1 special channel for subs. Check out its spec on the net if you havent heard it before. Many Thanks

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Also I could buy two Alpine MRD-M301 amps to power the subs separately, or buy one ALPINE MRV-F545. Which of the three choices would give best results?

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

i would definately power the subs with tht same amp..... better signal matching, so you wont get any distrotion btw subs...... or different response time
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

I'm guessin you dont have any experience with these amps then? If not the specs are as follows for that same amp.....

50 watts RMS x 4 + 200 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms
60 watts RMS x 4 at 2 ohms + 200 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms
120 watts RMS x 2 + 200 watts RMS x 1 in bridged mode
2-, 3-, 4-, or 5-channel output
Requires 8-gauge power and ground leads — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
Bass Engine® features:
Front and rear channels have variable 50-200 Hz high-pass/low-pass crossovers, 12 dB/octave
Sub channel has a 30-200 Hz low-pass crossover, 12 dB/octave
Selectable (15 Hz or 30 Hz) subsonic filter on the sub channel
Tuned Bass EQ (6 dB bass boost at 50 Hz with adjustable Q factor, while frequencies below 30 Hz are cut by 6 dB) on the sub channel
MOSFET power supply
STAR Topology (minimizes internal noise and prevents ground interference)
Oversized power and ground connections

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

personally...i would power my subs with one amp...and my interiors with another.... very different loads on both of them and i think youll get better performance with two separate amps.....
and yeah youre right...i dont have much personal knowledge of those amps...=D
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

I have found an Alpine D Class Amp that I really like, so could you please look at its spec below or search for MRD-M605 on the net to tell me if this has the power I am looking for for the Alpine subs I have. Your professional help is greatly appreciated:

» Mono subwoofer car amplifier
» 600 watts x 1 at 2 ohms (300 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms)
» Internal, variable-speed cooling fan
» MOSFET power supply and output stages
» STAR Topology for cleaner sound
» Bass Engine® features:
• Low-pass digital filter, 30-200 Hz, with a selectable 12 or 24 dB/octave slope
• Selectable subsonic filter (off, 15Hz, or 30 Hz)
• Parametric EQ variable from 30-160 Hz, ±12 dB
• Bass Compensator enhances low-end definition
» Top-mounted digital control center with cover
» CEA-2006 Compliant
» Preamp outputs
» Time correction 0-10 milliseconds in 0.1ms steps
» Phase adjustment 0-180°
» Turn-on delay
» Requires 4-gauge power and ground leads — wiring and hardware not included with amplifier
» Extra-large terminals

JayDubya · Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:34 pm Post subject:

For the alpine subs? If they are each a single 4 ohm voice coil that amp should do ok.
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

They are 4ohm DVC.....

wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Will that be OK?

JayDubya · Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:00 pm Post subject:

4 ohm DVC? Dual voice coils?

That would not be the best amp for the two subs. You can only wire those subs to 1, 4, or 8 ohms. Look for an amp that puts out about 600w at 1 ohm (probably a class D)
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wb131988 · TweakNOOB Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 194 Location: UK

Do you know of any 1 ohm stable monoblock d class amps that alpine do??