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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooooo...im cold just looking at that thing

You may get a small overclock if you are lucky.... hats of to you
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i got all that i need to get the vapo running, psu isn't strong enough so i have to boot system and then turn on the vapochill, otherwise system won't post. Good thing my new ocz 520 Modstream is on it's way...(and will most likely get something even bigger later... looking at 680 thermaltake.
So far in the bios the cpu is running at 4c.. still haven't recieved my watercooling setup... my case is definately too small to fit all this so i'm designing a new one that will be able to hold all of it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it really neccessary to watercool the hdd's? or is it just to go for as little air-cooling as possible?

Nice pics... but what a cable mess
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just one word of caution on the psu issue, look at the +12v rail and see how much amperage is available there. As the system that you are trying to run needs alot of the +12v rails.

Good luck and I cant wait to see the benchies from that beast.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know, most heavy duty water-cooling rigs like that need a seperate PSU to actually run.......I know the Vapochill units generally do, they simply draw too much power to run off of the same PSU as your main machine. In fact, I think the case the unit typically comes in has two PSU's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meobius wrote:
as for tubing, i was looking at the tygon actually, and yeah i know bout the distilled water, in theory (and often in practice as well) it does not conduct electricity.


Not sure where you heard that, but distilled water conducts electricity just as well as tap water......water is water.

You want to use distilled water because it's clean. Tap water has fluoride, minerals, other crap in it that will gunk up your pump pretty quickly, as well as cloud the tubing. It also doesn't conduct heat as well, because of all the junk floating around in it. Distilled water is as pure as you can get, so it'll last longer, keep your pump cleaner, and holds the heat a bit better.

Trust me, trop a toaster into a tub of distilled water, you'll get just as big a shock as if it were a regular bubblebath.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your gonna get your chops busted on that one FnF....
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2old2care wrote:
Your gonna get your chops busted on that one FnF....

yep^^

Distilled water is a VERY POOR conductor of electricity..try it out

true, it does conduct, but not NEARLY as well as tap, or well water, due to the salts and minerals found in the later
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I'll agree to that. Distilled water conducts electricty LESS than tapwater, but it still conducts it.

I just don't like to mislead people into thinking that it's any safer than any other liquid in a water-cooling setup, or any other using electricity. It isn't. We're talking a matter of a split second difference here.

Anyway, isn't the idea to keep the water IN the water cooling system? In which case, distilled is definitely better for keeping the water inside.........
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distilled is the way to go...it is not very expensive, and has nothing in it but H2O. There is more than one reason, but charged particles (ions) is the most significant. BUT, don't confuse de-ionized water with distilled. Distilled is the better choice.

BTW water is an insulator....air is an insulator....they both can conduct electricity...it's just a matter of at what potential vs. distance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distilled water has a conductivity 100-500 times less than ordinary water (depends on what ordinary water you use).
So should an accident happen, the current flowing through the water would be that number of times smaller.

Obviously any amount of extra current applied in the wrong place is not good but the current, the less damage it will potentially do to you and your valuable property.

Unfortunately you cannot simply keep purifying the water until conductivity is near zero because then the water becomes a corrosive. And will eat through stainless steel and glass! :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries about PSU... i got a 680Thermaltake to take care of all my psu worries (which i was starting to have...)
As far as water goes... still waiting on it, haven't received it yet...
got the vapo all rigged up... cpu hits zero (lower prob it won't read lower)
haven't tried much with it since i have to sleeve and fix all the cableing first
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