need advice on computer building

Josh · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:41 am Post subject:

Late response here, but JW's reccomendation is exactly what i would go for with a gaming rig. I have the NF7 and it is simple and good to overclock with, i just have a s*** 2400+

. If you have a budget on the GPU go for the 9800 pro 256mb, if you have a large budget, go for the 6800GT.

And yeah, if you can afford it, i highly reccomend the xaser 3, really nice.

Im not sure whether you were asking about actually "building a PC", so if you are, here is a site with a complete guide to building a PC, if you have a question about building a PC, it will be here.

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

yes i idid mean like physically building it. thx for the link.
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JayDubya · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:21 am Post subject:

gmoney · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:02 pm Post subject:

xaser 3 all the way babby. its an awesome case but if u want good cooling with it be prepared to replace all the fans, and even cut out the grills. the grills are horrible restrictors on this case. but other than that it cools hella good

http://www.tweaknews.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=36431#36431

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Sally · UberTweaker Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1158 Location: WA

yeah, what GMONEY said....except for ANY case...

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gmoney · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:31 pm Post subject:

yo weazzy what kind of 3dmark01/03 scores u getting with that awwwwwwwwesome rig. im drooooling just lookin at ur sig. mmmmm

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ghahat · TweakNOOB Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 142

if ur gonna go for a 9800pro u might want to wait a few weeks till the 6600GT with the AGP interface comes out. MSRP is $199 and it performs like a 6800 (read from the previews).

JayDubya · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:35 pm Post subject:

Josh · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:22 pm Post subject:

I think i remember wezey tellin me that he was gettin a score of around 11800 at GPU stock, he just got some water cooling kits for it...be afraid, be very afraid

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gmoney · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:

water, chilly, shivers. im scared.
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

ok with all of your imput (everyone). I've decided what I want.

Athlon 3200+
Abit nf-7m
thermaltake silent tower copper heatpipe
kingston DDR PC3200 1 GBx2
Maxtor either 80 or 120 GB diamondmax plus HD
256MB 6800 GT
Thermaltake V5000D (blue is pretty!)
Ultra 500watt ATX power supply
and i gues likie saoundblaster live or something.

please tell me where I'm going wrong in this rig, even if it's just a matter of opinion.
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

err input?
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

this is just a starting point because I really won't have time to build this untill the break in december. haha all that stuff will be much cheaper by then i hope. It'll still run hl2 and d3 like a dream.
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Sally · UberTweaker Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1158 Location: WA

ahh yeah little dude!

now u just need speakers and monitor........and optical drive
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JayDubya · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject:

Save yourself a few bucks and get the regular nf7. The nf7m has onboard video that you do not need. It can cause some problems and is definately not recommended.

I would still get a 2500m with a decent cooler. It will run cooler (also overclock better if you want) and would be very easy to run at 3200+ speeds. It also costs MUCH less than the 3200+
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gmoney · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:25 pm Post subject:

why do u want the nf7-m model mobo... that is the integrated graphics model. if you are going to get a freakin 6800gt then whats up with integrated graphics once u plug in that dope ass card it disables onboard gfx.

what is the point of getting one of the best o/c mobo's out and u just want to put a 3200+ in it... imo, that is wasteful. just get a mobility proc. and o/c that biznatch.

and this silent tower thing, well can you say dislocated zif socket and bye bye 6800gt

are you getting 2x 1gigabyte of ram or 2x 512megs of ram... 2 gigs is overkill to the maximum.

forgive me if im wrong but is the diamond max plus the pata drive, if i were you i would just invest in 2 raptors put them i raid0 and it will smoke dawg.

why do you want to get a sound blaster. all nforce2 mobo's come with 5.1 dolby digital surround sound.
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

thanks. anyother price/performance saving tips?
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meobius · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:27 pm Post subject:

nf7 or nf7-s

if it isn't too late i would recommend against the 32 bit amd in favor of the 64bit...
doubled my FPS in doom3 went from a 2500+m oc'ed and changed it to a 3400+ amd64 stock same videocard, same ram, and the 3400+ kills the barton. and with 1/3 of the noise.
my recommendation
kv8pro v1.1
amd64 2800+ - 3400+
some kickass sweat videocard

now the debate will get started that 64bit cpu's don't have 64bit software, and that there is no point getting it... etc. all I have to say is SCREW 64bit mode, hell double FPS in doom3 thats more than good enough for me! and if it can do 64bit well bonus... but the matter still remains that it kicks serious @$$

gmoney · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject:

oh yeah this isnt opinion either im just trying to save u some doh bro cuz from what i see it looks like u could get alot more bang without spending all that much buks.
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JayDubya · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:31 pm Post subject:

Actually, I would suggest going with a nf7-s now. Get a SATA hard drive for faster load times for windows and games.
2GB of ram is probably overkill like Gmoney said. Go for 2*512mb sticks of pc3200 instead.

I knew I forgot something else. The nf-7 series motherboards have some damn decent onboard sound. No sound card is required.
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meobius · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:32 pm Post subject:

in regards to the silent tower... i have one... and while the performance of it with two 92mm tornados is absolutely fantastic!!!!!!!!!!! it doesn't sit on the cpu properly. Too damn big though. Also don't try on any nforce based boards, the socket alignment is wrong and so there is only room for one fan, and the powersupply blocks airflow...

performance as mentioned is insane though!
3400+ amd64 with tornados at full it runs at room temp idle, and at full load it runs at 4C more and the time it takes to shed the 4C is miliseconds... course i don't run the tornados at full i run em at 5v instead of 12. still better than most other fans, but not quiet as noisy.

anyway... sockets be ware!!!!!

JayDubya · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:36 pm Post subject:

You can't argue with Meobius' results. Boy its fun shopping for a new pc? 32 bit or 64 bit? Your call.
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as4c · TweakNOOB Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 45

why the 2500 and not somewhere in between. spending an extra $40 for performance doesn't really bother me.

what board do you suggest then meobius? and how well does it oc?
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