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Silicon Skum
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still working on an effecient test for the L2 setting, getting mixed results at the moment. I *will* find a way....

So far it *looks* like the L2 setting will help. More so if the CPU has a larger cache than normal for that group.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silicon Skum wrote:
Still working on an effecient test for the L2 setting, getting mixed results at the moment. I *will* find a way....

So far it *looks* like the L2 setting will help. More so if the CPU has a larger cache than normal for that group.

SS


I hadn't forgotten this issue either, just been busy....but Mars and Earth are safe now.
But, I agree SS even if it is small amount of help, or no help, I've not seen any case where it hurt. So I'd set it.
Maybe I'll get some time this weekend to look at it some more.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

<--------also still looking into this.......I did some timings on some audio editing programs such as Goldwave, and when resampling the exact same Audio file from 8000hz to 44100hz, WITH the l2 setting assigned, i noticed (using a timer of course, although a crude one, only measuring to 1/10th of a sec) an almost 3/4 of a second improvment over NOT having the is setting assigned.......

So far....that one real life (to ME) example of its benefits.......hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dudes...remember the problemz I wuz having with doom 3...well...each time i follow one of these little tweakz....i notice.....something strange...

My performance increases!!!!! ....wow....who would've believed that...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Addictive isnt it?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice setup you have there cla9614 same mobo and chip as me , is that a gig stick or 2x 512 cause dual channel ram in that board kicks @ss. Amd yea Josh it is VERY addictive. PLay the game late at night with the lights off and you'll jump like you have never jumped before
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was referring to " follow one of these little tweakz" as being addictive But hey, same goes for doom!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i thought once you get the oc bug everyone knows it addictive
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhhh....... what about this?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q183/0/63.ASP&NoWebContent=1
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mojo1340 wrote:
Uhhh....... what about this?
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q183/0/63.ASP&NoWebContent=1


There is another thread here about this....And Silicon Scum and I have both worked on it a bit...it's very hard to nail down with much science, though.
That link is for NT and there is another for 2000 but we haven't seen one for XP.
MS's stand is not to mess with it....They will also have you leave the indexing service functioning, but that one helps the HD access times.
Some ppl say it really helps...some see no diference...most don't even know it exists.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SecondLevelDataCache

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q183/0/63.ASP&NoWebContent=1
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so has anyone seen a real difference with this tweak?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ToggleHead wrote:
<--------also still looking into this.......I did some timings on some audio editing programs such as Goldwave, and when resampling the exact same Audio file from 8000hz to 44100hz, WITH the l2 setting assigned, i noticed (using a timer of course, although a crude one, only measuring to 1/10th of a sec) an almost 3/4 of a second improvment over NOT having the is setting assigned.......

So far....that one real life (to ME) example of its benefits.......hope this helps...


a little bit.....i left it enabled.......
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I did notice some difference on my AMD 3200+ (512 cache). I left it up as I never saw any drop in performance, and I seemed to shave a few mins of my number cruncers output times. still enabled.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet. I'll try some number crunching benchies on my barton when I get that thing reformatted. Does anyone know where my xp cd is?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JayDubya wrote:
Does anyone know where my xp cd is?


yeah, it's just over there >



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check under the bottle of jack....=]

thats where i keep mine...=P
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, its not over there >
Which Jack bottle? Could be the Hawkeye bottle or bud light/keystone cans too. *ponders cleaning room but continues to toss things around to look for the disk*

I've got a backup but it just won't boot from the cd. I guess i'll have to find those floppy drives and attempt to boot to the cd via those.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2old2care wrote:
ToggleHead wrote:
indexing services?
termminal sercives?
tweakhound?

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Tell me it ain't so....forehead hits keyboard.

http://www.tweakhound.com/xp/xptweaks/supertweaks1.htm

Good place to start.


Great site. I'll see how much it improves 3dmark01se when i get done.

I finally found my xp disc! With prime95 and 3dmark01se, i noticed NO change with this L2 tweak. I'll have to try some more cpu intensive tasks like pi calculator.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed a huge difference when I did it. I think this is one of those things that benchmarking can rea without changing that cache. But in real world use, it does make a difference.
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