building a new computer

JonnyDizzle · TweakNOOB Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 38 Location: No where

ight my first system specs ( the one i am saving to build)

Thermaltake Lanfire ($130) Case
MSI K8T NEO ( $145) Motherboard
AMD 64-bit 2800 ($230) Processor
Seagate 80gb SATA ($230) Hard Drive
Antec Cool Blue ($110) Powersupply
ATI Radeon 9600 xt ($200) graphics card
?? Samsung 1 gig ($220) Memory??

Any suggestions are welcomed and much needed.
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Josh · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:14 am Post subject:

Go for some Corsair memory instead of samsung........or OCZ and GeIL.
Get a 9800 pro if you are looking to spend that amount of cash on a graphics card, seeing as it will out live the 9600xt by a small amount of time.
If you can afford it and you want a 64 bit system, get a AMD 64 bit 3000.....but a lot of people will prolly say go P4 32bit as 64bit is not really ready yet...in which case get a P4 2.8c and a MSI or ABIT board that supports all your needs.

Hope this helps
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JayDubya · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:36 am Post subject:

what do you want the pc for? gaming, video/audio editing, overclocking . . . etc.

the amd 64 bit line is quite immature at the moment. there is very little support to take full advantage of the 64 bit bandwidth. i would suggest a regular 32 bit processor at this time.

definately a 9800 pro over a 9600xt. you can even try a new x800pro or 6800GT if you go 32bit and save some money on the processor.

the MSI and Abit motherboards are great suggestions.

i would try for different memory than samsung. depending on whether you go with intel or not, you should get the highest ram speed you have available.

how big of psu is that antec true blue?
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FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject:

64 bit may not be used yet but no P4 can beat an ADM64 and this is proven many many many times, the socket 939 FX-53 wons the P4EE in everything but encoding.

FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:50 pm Post subject:

i would recommend getting corsair ram not samsung, i wold go for a 9800pro becasue you can spend $20 more and get it, and tis aobut 2x as fast as teh 9600XT becasue of the doubled pixel pipelines dont let ethe 500/600 fool you into thinking tis better thant he 380/680 9800pro, also i would gow ith the wavemaster its one of the best airflow cases ever built my grandpa has one and man its so sleek and awesome looksing and its only $10 more than the one your planning on buying.

Josh · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:

Good point Jay...what are you going to be using the rig for...judging by your own suggestion i reckon gaming...but i may be wrong?
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JonnyDizzle · TweakNOOB Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 38 Location: No where

gaming is what i am using it for!
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JayDubya · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:06 pm Post subject:

if you want if for gaming, then i would suggest getting a regular 32bit amd processor. the mobile 2500+ if you don't mind overclocking.

MSI or Abit motherboard with an nf2 chipset. x800pro or 6800GT
2*512mb corsair, kingston, ocz, or geil ram. speed - at least pc3200 but up to pc3700 if you are going to overclock.
make sure to get good cooling from thermalright if you are going to overclock.
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ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

^^^^^^What they all said
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geekzta127 · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

a2zcomp.com for a sapphiretech 9800pro (not oem) for 195bucks no tax and shipping is 6.58 so total would be about $202

geekzta127 · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:

oh yea i have ordered from them... there a bit slow like 1-2 weeks to take time but i guess its worth the wait

FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject:

heres a 9800pro at newegg.com for $199, only downside is its a saphire.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-102-268&DEPA=0

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meobius · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:21 pm Post subject:

9800pro sapphire usually 128bit and not 256bit

FreeTheRock [banned] · Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:33 pm Post subject:

no that one is 256bit buts its saphire only companies i trust anymore is Hitech and ATI themselves, my friend has a saphire 9800pro and its crap mine is wayy better i can OC it more nad he gets artifacts on the slightest OC, so he got rid of it and bought a Hitech 9800pro and now hes owning me in OCing but i jsut ordered a VGA Silencer so hopefully i can tkat he lead again lol but i prolly wont since he has a 9800XT core.

Yoshida · UberTweaker Joined: 24 Dec 2003 Posts: 1219

lol well i love my sapphire 9600XT so poo on you

geekzta127 · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:47 am Post subject:

you know during the era of flashing the 9800np bios to pro... well i have 9800np and flashed to pro works great... no artifacts

great company, no doubt.....

PolarPyro · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:50 am Post subject:

ghahat · TweakNOOB Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 142

ive seen the A64 3000 listed for less than $230 at several sites. Hardocp.com has an article on how to overclock that processor to 3500-3700.

if you dont mid getting a cheap case (PSU included), like an X dreamer 2 with some stock fans you would have enough money for a geforce 6800 (~$300)

Josh · Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:33 am Post subject:

ToggleHead · TWEAKGURU Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 4360 Location: Jersey

^^^^^^agreed

an i have an X dreamer-II......GREAT case for its cost........=]
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