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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to mention too that if there are filters on the intake fans that is also going to cut into their flow rate.

Fans are rated unobstructed, (ie nothing infront of or behind) So when they are installed in the front of the case there is alot of parts in the way of the air flow hindering the efficiency of the fan. It will not be able to move as much air as it is rated for. But the exhaust fan rarely has anything interfering with it. If anything the only thing the exhaust fan has to deal with is the perforations in the case that are meant of a grill for the fan. And as we all know these are easy enough to remove.

My bottom line here is the exhaust fan is going to be better at what it does than the intake fans. So with the example given to us in this tread it is perfectly logical that with the fans given case ventilation will right where you want it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never take the PSU as an airflow source.

Also use just the case fans themselves and always have slightly more exhaust than intake.

Again I restate, DON'T use your PSU into the equation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all I will say is that I disagree with this thinking and leave it at that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, that's fine.

But I am telling people reading this thread about a proper airflow setup for their new computer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[KoG]^weaZel wrote:
all I will say is that I disagree with this thinking and leave it at that.


Hmm. Well crap. I dont know who to go with now.

By the way, how DO i remove the preforations on the case blocking my 80mm exhaust fan? My case uses a stamped fan grill...

I think I'll go with both stealth intakes and the single thermaltake exhaust fan because the 120mm intake port on the bottom is only little holes allowing air in, and the i80mm intake port in the front is blocked by the case itself, like weazel said.

So i think their combined CFM's are gonna be far less than 75CFM, more like 55CFM. And then the 80mm thermaltake exhaust fan will put out probably a realistic 68CFm considering the obstructions. So I think I'll do that. What do you think, Nathan? Weazel?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

even though you didnt technically ASK for my thoughts.....here they are anyway.....=P

try them both out........they both have very valid points and have acheived different results........dont you think YOU wil too.........not knocking EITHER of these guru's opinions of course....=]

just go with your gut, and see which one works better for your system and case.....=]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very logically thought out my friend.

And as to removing the stamped fan grill at the back you would use a dremel to cut it out. If you feel upto doing this I will provide you with directions.
1- the case needs to be empty of any electronic component.
2- take the fan that is supposed to be mounted in that location and put it in place then trace on the outside of the case a circle that corresponds with the inner diameter of the fan housing.
3- use a dremel with a cut off wheel to cut along the trace you made. REMEMBER when using power tools to wear eye protection! and do this in a location that is easy to clean like a patio or garage. As this process of cutting will leave metal fillings all over the place.
4- use a file or the sanding drum attatchment on the dremel to remove any rough edges on the hole that was just cut.
5- Blow the case completely out with canned air (if you dont have access to an air compressor) make sure you get it clean as little particles of metal and electronic components dont mix.
6- reinstall all necessary parts (ie fans, fan grills, computer parts and psu)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the entire 2-3 weeks of this thread i've managed to totally rearrange my water setup. Add a GPU block and reset. Add RAM Sinks to the Radeon9800 Pro. Added 2 stealth fans. And you still haven't bought any fans for your computer yet? I think you should just go with 1 of the 32487 opinions that were stated already, find out who makes more sense and why. Then buy some damn fans!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lowvez wrote:
During the entire 2-3 weeks of this thread i've managed to totally rearrange my water setup. Add a GPU block and reset. Add RAM Sinks to the Radeon9800 Pro. Added 2 stealth fans. And you still haven't bought any fans for your computer yet? I think you should just go with 1 of the 32487 opinions that were stated already, find out who makes more sense and why. Then buy some damn fans!


His name may be the reason for the delay of action.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troy wrote:


His name may be the reason for the delay of action.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2004 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PERFECT by whos standards..........man..........just do what YOU feel is right......if you hate it.....change it
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